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Troutman
06-09-2008, 11:57 AM
I took the family over to the NC side of the park this weekend for our monthly camping trip. I fished a little in the campground area on saturday morning while it was still cool. I rigged up a dual dry fly combo with a yellow stimi and a cinn/black para ant pattern. Got a few on the stimi. but most came on the ant pattern. I've fished these dual dry rigs out west with hoppers and beetles and they work well together. I think the fish will watch the bigger fly and hesitate but at the last second will slam the smaller fly. Anyone else use this tactic around here? Ever got a double on it?

scflyfisher
06-09-2008, 03:54 PM
Troutman,

I haven't done it, but I really like the idea. I also had very good success with an ant pattern this Sunday. I actually felt like the fish like the ant better than the green weenie, which is the first time I have ever felt that way. All but one of my bigger fish came on the ant. Some of the fish were coming up from 3-5 feet off the bottom to nail it. I'm gonna try the dual dry sometime, it just never occurred to me to try it. Thanks for the inspiration.

Matt

nvr2L8
06-09-2008, 07:13 PM
Troutman,

I bought some ants from the Creel before they closed just for that purpose. Have not brought myself around to trying it yet but you've inspired me to give it a whirl. Thanks for the reinforcement.

(Now, there's a new MB warning! You have to wait 180 seconds between posts so I have 58 seconds left.? I guess I'm just in too big a hurry to run out and work in the yard tonight and got in a rush. My bad, Paula.)

Brook Fan
06-09-2008, 09:21 PM
I have yet to fish a foam ant but I am curious about how you decide on the size of the ant. Is the ant supposed to be a realiatic size for the area or is the ant fly more of a stimulator to the fish

scflyfisher
06-10-2008, 07:39 AM
Brook Fan,

I've never actually paid attention to the ants at the specific streams I fish. The ant I was fishing this past weekend was a size 14, which is probably bigger than the average ant. I have had good success on smaller ants as well. Sometimes I like a little bit bigger flies when fishing terrestrials so they make a little more of a splash when they hit the water. Just my experience.

Matt

Troutman
06-10-2008, 09:53 AM
The ant patterns I usually use are a #16 for around here. Tried some #18 but my 41 year old eyes prefer the bigger flies!

TroutAssassin
06-10-2008, 10:23 AM
Ill second these two guys, use #14 and #16 in black ant patterns. I have yet to fish a foam ant but my go to ant pattern is a #14 Hi-Viz para ant.

Brook Fan
06-10-2008, 12:09 PM
TroutAssassin, Troutman, and scflyfisher

Thanks guys I appreciate the information. I'm glad to hear the #14 and #16 sizes because I was not looking forward to attempting to track a #18 or #20 black ant in the water.:eek:

Jubal
06-10-2008, 11:34 PM
The ant patterns I usually use are a #16 for around here. Tried some #18 but my 41 year old eyes prefer the bigger flies!

shoot, my 28 year old eyes prefer the big ones myself and usually with a nice white parachute!

jzimmerman
06-11-2008, 06:32 AM
I like this idea a lot. I fished west prong last Sunday with a hi-viz parachute ant pattern and they absolutly tore it up. But seriously My ant looked more like a black string of yarn when I left. I think I'll give this two fly method a try.

Stonefly
06-11-2008, 01:18 PM
What about the hard body ants? Anyone use these? Obviously fished wet.

sb

scflyfisher
06-11-2008, 10:09 PM
Oh yeah. Ants are just great no matter where you fish them in the water column. I have caught fish before on top with foam ants/beetles, then taken the same foam fly and added enough split shot to sink it and caught fish out of the same spot on the bottom. It takes a lot of shot to really sink a foam ant or beetle, but they simply catch fish anywhere from the surface to the bottom. Its fun to play around with them and try different things.

Matt

nvr2L8
06-13-2008, 09:20 PM
Went up for a really quick trip to Thunderhead Prong today, starting at the place where Defeat Ridge Manway crosses the river. Randy Story said last week that some local folks call that part of the stream (above Sam's Creek) Blow Down Branch because of a tornado that ripped through there years ago.

Tried an ant behind a light cahill and caught two rainbows on that rig.

Troutman, thanks again for the inspiration to give ants a try. Fun stuff.

BTW, there have been a bunch of trees blown over since the last time I was up in that area - both over the trail and over the stream.