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vermonster
06-18-2008, 01:37 PM
Hi,

Our family is going to be in the area next week, and I am looking for a good canoe/fly fish outing. I am wondering what the options are for floating the Holston (Cherokee tailwater). If we put in below the dam, are there canoe takeouts within a few miles, or do you have to go all the way to Nance's Ferry?

Also is the water pretty calm the whole way, or does it vary (based upon water releases, etc)?

Thanks for any help!

Fanatic4Fish004
06-18-2008, 03:15 PM
There are a few spots before Nance's Ferry. However, they are on the back of people's land, which is kind of sketchy. To my knowledge I don't know of a legitimate take out spot, but others may know of some spots.

As far as the water goes, I would take a look at the water release schedule because if not you will be doing a lot of paddling. I went on a 3day camping/fishing trip 2 weeks ago down the Holston, and they changed the water on us so we were paddling non-stop for 3-4 hours before the water finally reached us. Hope this helps!

golfballs03
06-18-2008, 09:12 PM
Indian Cave is the only other access open to the public. It's at the end of Indian Cave Rd. on the Rutledge side of the river. Unless you're camping like fanatic, it has to be a point at one end of your trip. Also, if you want to catch many fish, it will be when they're not running any generators, which makes for shallow water in a couple spots and might require you to get out and walk it through... I've never done it in a canoe but i have have in a drift boat. Good luck

Petey
06-19-2008, 09:12 AM
You are looking at 12-13 miles from the Dam to Indian Cave. Then it is another 6-7 from Indian Cave to Nances.

If they aren't generating water you have a series of moving water followed by long slow pools.

I have floated the upper section with little to no generation and it is an all day affair. From dark to dark.

waterwolf
06-19-2008, 06:01 PM
All the above are incorrect.

There is a take out for canoes that is public just below Buffalo Springs, about 8 miles from the dam. It is an easy float with little if any riffles and should take about 6-7 hours if you are not fishing.

Or you can float from Indian Cave to Nances ferry which is about 7 miles of riffles and flat water same float time and a little more scenic and less developed.

Easy float, and options abound.

Petey
06-19-2008, 10:35 PM
So exactly what did I say that was incorrect?

Is it not 12-13 miles to from the Dam to Indian Cave?

During that float does the river not have a series of moving water followed by long slow pools?

Am I am wrong about my information from Indian Cave to Nances Ferry?

By the way, I am not trying to start a conflict. Just curious as to what you took exception to in what I typed. I have never used the public take-out at Buffalo Spring, and I didn't even think about it being there.

waterwolf
06-20-2008, 06:49 AM
Sending someone from the dam to Indian Cave is like sending someone from Knoxville to Memphis rather then Knoxville to Chattanooga.

Sean, if you all are floating that in drift boats then more power to you, but sending a family out for a day canoe trip on that float is just not right. It is far too long and get to the point of being non-enjoyable.

You were incorrect in implying there were no other takes out other then Indian Cave.

Petey
06-20-2008, 09:09 AM
Wolf, my initial reply was to only add to what had been posted. That is why I let them know it was 12-13 miles and an all day affair "Dark to Dark" if they were to try to go from the Dam to Indian Cave. After re-reading my initial post, I guess by referring to it as the upper section it would have been misleading.

That was not my intention. I was just trying the give the guy warning that by doing that float he was looking at a very long stretch of water.

That is all. I didn't mean to imply anything.

Sorry to the poster whom initiated this post, I wasn't trying to mislead you by intent. Just trying to give you some heads up info to help you make a decision.

Waterwolf, email me at SeanP@mbiarch.com . Evidently you know me since you called me by name, just curious as to whom you are.

golfballs03
06-20-2008, 12:57 PM
Sean, if you all are floating that in drift boats then more power to you, but sending a family out for a day canoe trip on that float is just not right. It is far too long and get to the point of being non-enjoyable.


That is a matter of opinion. Petey told him how far it was and made it perfectly clear it was an all day trip. If you don't know him or his family, it is a little presumptuous to determine what they will or will not enjoy.

Tampico access is private. I'm sure we can all list a host of other private accesses on the Holston and if you want to recommend them to people, fine, but for you to make the statement that "all of the above is incorrect" is incredibly ridiculous. Tone down your inane commentary, please.

billyspey
06-20-2008, 06:04 PM
INDIAN CAVE IS NOT A PUBLIC TAKE OUT even the owner allows use, be respectful and obtain permission for use

waterwolf
06-20-2008, 07:42 PM
That is a matter of opinion. Petey told him how far it was and made it perfectly clear it was an all day trip. If you don't know him or his family, it is a little presumptuous to determine what they will or will not enjoy.

Tampico access is private. I'm sure we can all list a host of other private accesses on the Holston and if you want to recommend them to people, fine, but for you to make the statement that "all of the above is incorrect" is incredibly ridiculous. Tone down your inane commentary, please.

Wrong on Tampico. The true boat take out is private, however, just downstream of there is a place which is inside the hwy. right of way (which is public) and the high water mark. Making it perfectly legal to take a canoe out there. And about a mans family, having fished people out of all of these rivers I can personally attest to looking out for others to keep them out of harms way.

"Inane commentary", ahh never mind it is not worth my time to respond to that drivel.
INDIAN CAVE IS NOT A PUBLIC TAKE OUT even the owner allows use, be respectful and obtain permission for use

Thank you, and I am glad to see someone say something about that. Yes they do allow public use, but it is always courteous to ask permission just to keep an even keel.

Paula Begley
06-20-2008, 08:25 PM
Everyone behave, please.

Paula

Realtyman
06-20-2008, 08:55 PM
I would like to welcome our new member to the board;)
It is a long float to whereever you are gonna take out at. Anybody that doesn't think so can get behind the oars and row while I fish. I'll even bring lunch:cool:

Curtis

waterwolf
06-20-2008, 10:36 PM
I would like to welcome our new member to the board;)
It is a long float to whereever you are gonna take out at. Anybody that doesn't think so can get behind the oars and row while I fish. I'll even bring lunch:cool:

Curtis

I am hungry, and like to row. It comes at a price however.:biggrin:

golfballs03
06-21-2008, 10:27 AM
if confluence of public right-of-ways, like public roads and TVA's, constitutes a take-out for boaters then there may be more ways to get in and out of the river than I said, but if safety and family access is a concern, seems risky and my groups never considered them. We have, however, enjoyed day trips and good fishing using the established ones.

Waterborn
06-21-2008, 12:40 PM
Is there any relation to the RunningWolf of past and the "new" WaterWolf...if not, there sure does seem to be some eeire resemblence...

Paula Begley
06-21-2008, 01:24 PM
No,there isn't.

Paula

Worrgamesguy
06-21-2008, 01:47 PM
No,there isn't.

Paula

IP checked! Haha. But the Holston seems a lot like the Caney Fork to me, from the way you guys are describing it. Really long with a lot of pissy landowners.

waterwolf
06-21-2008, 06:07 PM
IP checked! Haha. But the Holston seems a lot like the Caney Fork to me, from the way you guys are describing it. Really long with a lot of pissy landowners.

Not at all, the landowners on the Holston are extremely nice mainly because they haven't been peed on by disrespective fisherman and the ones who do access across them have been very courteous.

Maybe those days of irritable landowners are gone.

billyspey
06-21-2008, 10:11 PM
we don't want it to become the caney fork , so be respectfull of the land owners ask permission before you cross even if you know he doesn't care!!!!!!!!!! i don't care what joe blow has told me i will ask for myself.