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fly fisherman DK
08-28-2008, 06:01 PM
How good is the brook trout fishing in mid October? I am planning on coming up there around that time to fish for brookies. Thank you for your opinions.

fly fisherman DK

08-28-2008, 06:16 PM
you shouldn't be dissapointed

Gerry Romer
08-28-2008, 07:00 PM
You know, of course, that you won't be able to get up Lynn Camp or Sam's Creek... but any of the other blue line streams should still be warm enough to be fishing really well.

fly fisherman DK
08-28-2008, 08:21 PM
Are you serious about Sam's Creek!:eek: I didn't know that Sam's was going to be closing. I love fishing there.

08-28-2008, 08:36 PM
no, it's gonna be open...i was wrong

Gerry Romer
08-29-2008, 10:02 AM
no, it's gonna be open...i was wrong

You sure they're not closing it for a brief stretch? I thought I'd read somewhere that they would briefly close Sam's and Thunderhead... :confused:


fly fisherman DK
08-29-2008, 05:37 PM
Do ya'll know how we can find out for sure about Sam's Creek?

08-29-2008, 05:51 PM
Do ya'll know how we can find out for sure about Sam's Creek?

Call the 800 number at Sugerlands and ask them.

08-29-2008, 10:17 PM
but access to sam's is closed with middle prong trail shut down...plus greenbrier ridge trail is closed too

08-29-2008, 10:25 PM

Are they cutting of the horse traffic up Middle Prong Trail? That's kind of tough if they are. Not a horse person myself but I know there are a lot of horse riders who frequent that trail.

08-29-2008, 11:53 PM
middle prong will be closed to all...it's only 12 days

09-04-2008, 03:24 PM
Received the information below from a co-worker today; I hope this is helpful:

Great Smoky Mountains News Release
Immediate Release Contact: Nancy Gray
Date: September 3, 2008 865/436-1208
Great Smoky Mountains National Park officials have announced the
closure of several streams in the Tremont area of Blount County, Tenn.,
starting at 8 p.m. September 7-September 19, 2008, to public use for the
purpose of conducting native, Southern Appalachian Brook Trout restoration.
Park biologists will use Antimycin A, an Environmental Protection Agency
(EPA)-approved compound which acts as a fish toxicant, to remove the
non-native rainbow trout on an 8-mile segment of Lynn Camp Prong, a
half-mile section of Indian Flats Prong, and Marks Creek, all tributaries
of the Middle Prong of the Little River.
The affected streams will be closed to all water-related recreation
during the 2- week operational period. Park visitors are prohibited from
entering the closed areas to minimize interference with the project and
eliminate direct exposure to this chemical while it is being applied which
potentially can cause irritation to the eyes and nostrils. In addition,
backcountry campsite 28 will be closed for the first week, September 7-13.
While the Middle Prong Trail and other trails in this area will remain
open, hikers should be aware that project personnel will be using all
terrain vehicles on the trails to aid in the operation.
After the antimycin treatment, a second chemical (potassium
permanganate) will be added to neutralize the antimycin. A substantial
body of research has shown that, even without the "antidote" chemical,
antimycin is quickly broken down into inert chemicals as it washes
downstream, posing no threat to human health or other animals.

Brook Trout Restoration--two
Following the initial treatment phase and analysis, approximately
1,000 native brook trout will be collected from streams across the Park and
released in the renovated streams. The reintroduced brook trout
population will be monitored annually. The treated sections will remain
closed to angling for several years during the recovery process so brook
trout populations can thrive without fishing pressure. Once the population
has stabilized, the stream will be opened to recreational fishing.
Park Fisheries Biologist, Steve Moore explained, "The only other fish
species located here besides the nonnative rainbow trout is the native
black nose dace. We will use a backpacking electrofishing technique to
capture and relocate this species temporarily to holding tanks in a nearby
stream before applying the chemical. Then the fish will be returned to its
original habitat. This chemical will not harm crayfish and salamanders, nor
will it eliminate all aquatic insects. Insects will begin repopulating the
area in 1-2 weeks so that food for young fish will be plentiful by next
Moore continued, "We have conducted similar brook trout restorations
using the same chemical on three other streams, nearby Sams Creek and a
portion of Indian Flats Creek in Tenn., and Bear Creek in N.C., which have
natural barriers, such as waterfalls that prevent nonnative trout species
from returning. Follow-up research has shown this to be an effective means
of re-establishing displaced native brook trout populations which
historically has lost 75 percent of its range. The Park has had an active
brook trout restoration program since 1987 and we have made great headway
in our restoration program. Due to 30 years of extensive brook trout
restoration efforts and decades of research and analysis, the Park opened
brook trout fishing on a permanent basis in 2007."
An Environmental Assessement was prepared and approved in 2000 for
the restoration of 6 stream segments within the Park. Funding for the
restoration project has come from various partnerships and private sources
including Trout Unlimited and its Little River Chapter, Friends of the
Smokies, Trout and Salmon Foundation, Federation of Fly Fishers, Wal-Mart,
Orvis, and Eastern Brook Trout Joint Venture whose mission is to preserve
and restore native brook trout to its native range.
Babette Collavo, VIP Coordinator
Outdoor Ethics Coord, SER
Great Smoky Mountains NP (865)436-1265