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jzimmerman
09-30-2008, 11:58 AM
I floated the Clinch with a good friend of mine last Sunday. We started at the peach tree launch area and floated down to the ramp below the bridge in Clinton. It was an excellent day on the water, the fish were rising consistently all day. Mike and I probably caught somewhere around 35 fish apiece and both with a few fish over the 15 inch mark. There was a good mixture of browns, bows, and brookies, but if I had to guess I would say we caught more bows than anything else. Most of our fish came on various midge imitations but we did get a decent amount of dry fly activity. All in all it was another excellent day on the Clinch river, "which seems to have become the norm for the past summer."

Sorry I just realized that I got the date wrong it was the 28th not the 29th

ChemEAngler
09-30-2008, 01:54 PM
Thanks for the report, and it has been quite a surprising summer on the Clinch. This fall should also be a good one.

Travis

Fishermansfly
09-30-2008, 02:16 PM
In pursuit of trying to earn an extra buck we took a group of novice fly fisherman out to the Clinch this past Sunday. There were a total of four and I had one fly fisherman and one spin fisherman. The morning was incredible, both boats blistered fish and before noon everyone had a slam. Brookies in the 12'' benchmark and almost all beautifully colored...TWRA musta hit the gene pool right this year! They are absolutely beautiful! The fly fisherman were absolutley killing fish while the gent in the back of my boat spin fishing was catching around 4 an hour!

This report is funny because it's the exact report I told my father. He called me to tell me you posted it and say there was an eerie comparison in the reports!

Carrying on, the afternoon slowed way down but the water had obviously came up and their feeding pattern changed. We tried chunking streamers for a short time, but these guys didn't want to put the effort into making it work! Alotta casting and not alotta fish...I believe my guy lasted about 30 minutes longer than the others before changing back out to a double nymph rig!

Either way, when we got back and everyone was paying up the owner asked how many fish the spin fisherman had caught and he said "17 landed but 20 hooked" I laughed and said "Holy cow if you hooked 20 then the guy in the front of the boat caught three to four times as many easily." What I didn't know was that he was actually keeping count. We had a 70 to 80 fish day and most were caught in the morning! The other boat well surpassed the 100 fish day benchmark with ease. It was one of those magical every other cast days! There's only one or two of those a year that you can count on..I wish I woulda been standing in the front of my boat rather than rowing!

We too ran Peach Orchard down. That's a long, boat beating, section of river....If it wasn't for the money and putting gigantic smiles of faces I'd never do it again! The sad thing is, the amount of damage I did to my boat was more or less like breaking even on the trip! Theres a few spots (gouges in the gelcoat) on my boat now! :mad:

~Brett

ChemEAngler
09-30-2008, 02:52 PM
Hey Brett, I sent you an email. To your gmail account...

Travis

golfballs03
09-30-2008, 03:48 PM
So you went out on low water?

Fishermansfly
09-30-2008, 06:13 PM
Yes! Low, low water brother! That is also the first time I had tried that float. I know you can easily row upstream from Peach Orchard upstream to the interstate bridge. However floating downstream, I just don't think you could make it all the way without the water on! There was one section that we got to after lunch, the halfway point, that stretched the entire width of the river. With generation, 1 gen flowing, we managed to float about 1 to 2' over this natural dam of sorts! I would imagine the water has to flow over it somehow on low water, I just don't see how you'd get a boat over it!

~Brett

waterwolf
09-30-2008, 06:30 PM
Brett it is only gel-coat. Try running it 60 times a year like I used to do, and some on this forum do now. I don't even remember what gel coat looks like on the bottom of a boat. I also promise that if you think that run is bad, strap on some of the other rivers in this part of the state. Some take soccer ball sized chunks and leave holes in boats.

The mark of a good drift boat is chewed up chines and jagged fiberglass. In the words of a good friend of mine, "You can tell alot about the boys in the boat, by the bottom of their boat."

Forget about it, and I wouldn't worry much until you can see light shining through the chine.

Fishermansfly
09-30-2008, 06:47 PM
Wolf, yea this is true! I guess I just learned the lines on the Watauga rather well. I've floated that river, new at the oars, and haven't even put a scratch on her, and I've done some rather stupid things in it too. I'm glad to have the shoe! I'm type A personality when It comes to possessions I own, especially when I like um as much as I do the boat! You can ask my buddy who's got the same boat as I do, when my boat get's parked the boat is spotlessly cleaned including the trailor and my wheels, including the spare, have been spray shined! My boat looks brand new behind a real piece of a truck...It's almost comical pulling it...The boat is worth four times what the truck is worth!

Do you know if it's possible to make it down river, without generation from Peach Orchard to the 61 bridge? I believe I'll stick to running my boat for money on that river...I just don't know about pleasure! It's hard to enjoy rowing, well I guess I should say pushing, my boat while digging a boulder into the side of the boat! What's really funny is the chine on the shoe didn't show a scratch from all the abuse! I will say I would like to run it from the wier past Millers! ;) with 1 flowing.

Thanks in advance!
~Brett

waterwolf
10-01-2008, 05:13 AM
I know where you come from, and there are plenty just like you. Sure you can run it from PO to 61 with the water off, and there are only a couple of bad places. PO shoals, Coldwater, and 61 bridge. Everything in between is pretty easily avoided, but the above will always leave a mark of some kind.

If you want to avoid it, get out and walk the boat through. Also,try to avoid floating on days when TVA turns the water off any earlier then midnight the day before.

golfballs03
10-01-2008, 08:49 AM
One of the first times I floated, they just pulsed some water and fishing was great most of the way. But since it wasn't much, by the time I got to the bend above the jail, the water dropped out on me and I had to walk my boat the entire straightaway down to the 61 bridge

Rockyraccoon
10-02-2008, 11:04 PM
Try being me.....

For some reason or another....my boat rides about two inches deeper than most drifters. It's gotta be all my extra gear and not my large posterior. ;)

Thank God for Clackacrafts. The TIMEX of driftboats. :smile:

Fishermansfly
10-03-2008, 11:04 AM
Not trying to start a war but I quote a good friend "Those who own a Clacka, never rowed a Hyde!" HAA HAA HAA~ Just had to pick a fight!

No, but seriously, while on the Big Horn river we had high side Clacka's with wooden oars. The boat felt like a cheap peice of crap! All of the boxes were made of fiberglass and squeaked, the bottom certainly flexed alright and it was impossible to pull it off of a run while the boat was tracking. It was terrible...fishing out of um was alot more difficult too. The person in the back felt stuck and it wasn't easy to change oarsman with the person in the back of the boat! However I will say that it was more than likely an older model Clacka and the heavy wooden oars didn't compare to the counterbalanced carbon fiber oars my Hyde had! Not to mention I was used to my low profile. I woulda liked to have been able to row a low profile (side) Clacka!

I can only imagine the abuse that your boat see's. I want to learn that line on the Hi, but I'm a little afraid of taking my baby out there to the wolves! Plus I'm sure you don't mind an extra boat staying outta your watershed!:biggrin:

I do wanna make it over there how is things on the HI?

~Brett

Worrgamesguy
10-03-2008, 01:10 PM
What's the purpose in having a boat if you're not gonna use it? Doesn't make too much sense to me, would you rather put a few scratches on your boat and catch more fish or not use it at all and keep it pretty? I know they're expensive, but use it, man! I catch dozens more trout if I'm floating than if I am wading. You may be different, though.

golfballs03
10-03-2008, 04:02 PM
I will say that beating your boat to **** isn't a nice way to spend a day even if you are catching some fish, but thats just me. It sends a chill down my spine hearing a rock rip down my hull. Uh, I hate even thinking about it

billyspey
10-03-2008, 08:56 PM
have you bought a boat lately?

Worrgamesguy
10-03-2008, 09:46 PM
I will say that beating your boat to **** isn't a nice way to spend a day even if you are catching some fish, but thats just me. It sends a chill down my spine hearing a rock rip down my hull. Uh, I hate even thinking about it

I guess this is true, it's an uneasy feeling but it isn't life altering for me. Unless you happen to get marooned on a rock with a jagged edge and it really does damage, that's a different story.

have you bought a boat lately?

My dad bought a 12' jon boat :rolleyes:

Fishermansfly
10-04-2008, 01:10 AM
Worrgamesguy! :eek: Dude, lemme rephrase this. When I say pretty I mean that when I have things that I enjoy as much as I do that boat, it's hard to shuv it up against a rock on purpose just to float it downstream. I have consistantly been beat up on by the guys I work with, about how I spent over 8 grand on a boat that has no motor. That's like spending 8 grand on a yak, canoe, or john boat!

At a pretty fair rate of $100.00 a horse power (pretty common in the boating industry) I could have bought a decent little john boat with a 70 horse motor for what I paid for my Hyde and it just isn't aluminum! It would be the equivilant of you buying a new car and running it through a brior patch on purpose...Does that make sense? Why heck no!

I love the boat and enjoy every second of being in it, just not being on a tailwater where you purposely have to beat up your boat to get it down stream while catching 6'' to 14'' fish! Now if there was some 24" fish involved I'd probably have less to gripe about! Non the less I'd still not like it! Those boat's are designed to be pretty precise at taking on runs and avoiding rocks in low water conditioins. Like I've said I've repeatedly floated the Watauga, which I've been told is the second hardest river to float (1st being the HI) and I had yet to put a scratch on my boat until I met that section of the Clinch!

Bill your hilarious and I wanna row your Clack just for good measure! I believe it's you and me on the 29th, we will just have to beat um up together this time!

~Brett

waterwolf
10-04-2008, 05:04 AM
Its only gel coat, once again and the mark of a good boat is a chewed up chine and signatures from the rivers it has traversed.

Hyde, Clacka, they are all the same in my opinion. I row a Hyde, but have rowed a bunch of different mfg.'s boats and they all get the job done.

golfballs03
10-04-2008, 11:36 AM
A boat is going to get beat up overtime anyway, but going down a river like the Hiwassee, I'd rather do it with a person who has floated it before - I don't want to get all beat up if I don't have to. But I've never floated the HI so maybe I'm over estimating it

waterwolf
10-04-2008, 01:14 PM
The Hi has one real bad spot at the stairsteps, no matter what it seems you are going to take a shot. The difference between it and the Clinch or Holston is that you are moving fast when you hit rocks. The Clinch rocks are generally slow hits which have a louder bark then bite. There are smallmouth rivers in this part of the state that make any trout stream look like a joke in terms of boat beating abilities.