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ttas67
12-05-2008, 02:22 PM
I'm going to visit paint creek in the near future, wondering if anyone has any idea of the bugs I should tie up. Has anyone fished there lately, and what have you had success with?

I Got the Fever
12-05-2008, 03:41 PM
It has been about two months since i was there. I didn't catch jack the whole weekend. The water level was extremely low though. Don't know if you have been there before, but it is a tiny stream. Although I did see about 8 rainbows in one pool that were, no BSing, at least 25 inches, if not 30+. Biggest trout I have ever seen. Not really a response you were looking for though. Good Luck. Please post some pics if you snag one of those monsters

I Got the Fever
12-05-2008, 03:52 PM
Hey ttas67,
I'm new to fly fishing and especially new to the clinch. I saw the pic you posted in another thread of a nice brown you caught a couple days ago. do you mind if I ask what you caught it on? A friend and I just started fishing recently, so I have never really fished with someone who knows what they are doing. I have seen lots of photos lately of great fish from the clinch and I'm wondering what I doing wrong. I feel like I have a decent cast, but my knowledge of the other parts of fly fishing are lacking, like fly selection etc. Care to share some knowledge? The photo looks like you were near miller's island. Just trying to become a better fisherman. thanks in advance

Dennis

ttas67
12-05-2008, 05:34 PM
Dennis - no problem. most of my fish on the clinch lately have come on zebra midges. I usually fish a 2 fly rig: zebra midge dropped off something a little larger (scud, BHPT, etc.) with an indicator and weight.

send me an email and I can maybe help you more specifically and point you to some good articles. ttas67 at gmail dot com

Worrgamesguy
12-05-2008, 08:05 PM
Is that your secret, Trevor? I fish the "deeper" holes on the Caney with an EHC indicator with a zebra midge over 2 feet below the EHC. It's awkward, but it works okay. Do you use a strike indicator?

ACinEastTN
12-05-2008, 11:16 PM
I went to Paint Creek on 11/29. It was decent at best. Yes ther are some big fish but the water is low and gin clear. These fish spook very easy. There are a couple holes that they're stocked in there like cattle...

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj61/christianaaron/469.jpg




Not much surface activity. On the deeper holes I have had success with a San Juan, an egg pattern, and streamers might work if the water isn't very clear. You can find some fish isolated and try some wet flys and some nymphs with a zebra midge dropper. One neat thing about Paint Creek is that it has alot of Horny Head. If you can break yourself from the cattle pens they are fun to catch and very agressive. However there are some big trout stocked in there.

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj61/christianaaron/468-1.jpg
(http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj61/christianaaron/469.jpg)

flynut
12-06-2008, 02:28 AM
Worrgamesguy,

While the Elk Hair Caddis will catch fish on the Caney, try fishing w/o it unless the fish are obviously hitting a heavy hatch. Nymphing is where it's at.

Definitely tie a dropper or two. Start fishing two flies, then once you feel comfortable fishing those and don't tangle, add another so that you're fishing three at once. One or two zebra midges, different colors. One heavier fly, like a bh pheasant tail or hare's ear. Use a moveable indicator of your choice, (I like the putty b/c I think it's easy to move up and down the leader), so that you can change the depth of your flies as you move around the river. Having an Elk Hair Caddis as your indicator limits you to that two feet of tippet until the next fly, which w/ current could make the fly drift only inches below the surface.

Fishing two or three nymphs below an indicator will allow you to search all throughout the water column until you figure out what and where the trout are feeding on.

And one last thing...Also try fishing the same rig w/o an indicator...sometimes on a dead drift and sometimes putting a little action into the flies...

Good luck!

MadisonBoats
12-06-2008, 12:02 PM
I Got the Fever (http://littleriveroutfitters.com/forum/member.php?u=4427) - Dennis:

The key - patience! Most new fly fisherman want to cast all day. I have to remind myself to settle down sometimes. What you want to focus on is your presentation to the fish. Look for good deep pools or the back side of ebbs. Also, note on the side of the stream where there seem to be lots of Herring bird poop. That is a good sign of a productive hole. Also, look for oxygen rich areas where the water is moving with bubble activity.

What you want to do is settle in to a good spot very quietly. Be ready to cast when you get to the spot. Focus on an area you want to present (where you think the fish are). Cast upstream of that area with minimal casts and distractions. Let your fly/bait float through this area with the natural presentation that it would be using if not attached to your line. Your fly line should be on top of the water and not sinking - stretch it out beforehand if you see it doing this. This will scare the fish. Keep tabs on the slack in your line and work strip it to keep it ready for a strike.

Also, be aware of the insect activity around you... If you see a lot of flies on top of the water and the fish are popping them - go for top flies.

Hope this helps...

There are some very knowledgeable members on this site that may help you.. Always be respectful of others and the fish...Learn to catch and release trout - it is not the same as Bass Fishing...

Email me if you want some more ideas...

Be safe and have fun!
CSM

kytroutman
12-06-2008, 12:37 PM
Trevor, it depends largely on when you are going. Normally from Thanksgiving until Spring, I have best luck with a san juan worm (brown and natural) and a PH Bead Nymph with a red butt. A black nose dace will also work with full sun.

bum_hoping4trout
12-08-2008, 11:03 AM
Where exactly is paint creek? and once I get there, where are good spots to fish? Thanks

Green Weenie
12-08-2008, 12:35 PM
bum,

As far as I could tell, there are about 3 pools that were holding the majority of the fish. All were down stream of the campground. My advice would be to drive along, stop at any likely-looking, slow-moving pools, and look down. If they're in there, you'll see them. :eek:

As far as flies go, I would suggest any white streamer. Just make sure you have enough weight on it to get it in the strike zone. These fish are not going to move more than a few inches to feed. You may also want to try a pellet fly.

On a side note, this is probably as close as you can get to actually fishing in a hatchery, IMHO. :frown:

Hope this helps.

kylemc
12-09-2008, 01:11 PM
Paint Creek is my back yard and I have only fished the DH once this year just to kill an hour. Before the drought the fish would move every where on the creek and would adapt and become tricky, this is not the case now. The fish are stuck in the deep holes and runs and can't move, hopefully with the rain we are getting and the snow from the top of the mountain the creek will rise. I have been in the tailwaters to long and miss the mountain streams.

Troutman
12-09-2008, 03:49 PM
Fished the DH a lot before they fixed and reopened the road. It was fun and easy fishing. Had my son hooked into a brown that was mid 20s before it wrapped and broke off while trying to net it.

Kyle, I heard they caught some seasonal agra. workers (legal or not), cast netting trout in some of the pools along the road. Wish they would leave the gate closed yearround.

kytroutman
12-09-2008, 03:56 PM
When I was there earlier in the year, I pulled three cans of dog food where someone had been baiting the holes and two empty corn cans from the stream. I also managed to pull a couple of trot lines with multiple hooks tied to a tree over one of the deeper pools that I put in the trash bag with the cans. It's too bad not everyone wants to play by the rules.

Green Weenie
12-09-2008, 04:39 PM
That's horrible. Kudos to you for taking that stuff down.

ACinEastTN
12-10-2008, 10:05 AM
I went a few times last year and caught on to some guys who would work in teams to get them out. The person fishing would stay in the middle while the two accomplices would crawl into the woods a few hundred yards down the road on each side of the fisher. They all three had radios and were all dressed in camo. When they saw the TWRA truck coming down the road they would radio to one another and the fisher would hop into the woods and hide while the truck drove by. Is there a more sevier penalty for pre meditated poaching?

kytroutman
12-10-2008, 12:34 PM
It's too bad there is not a system of volunteer deputies that could issue citations when they come across such instances.

Green Weenie
12-10-2008, 01:16 PM
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/6229/deputizedng6.th.jpg (http://img150.imageshack.us/my.php?image=deputizedng6.jpg)

obligatory...

ttas67
12-11-2008, 02:19 AM
Green Weenie and I went Saturday. It was OK at best. we did catch fish though! Here's one. this guy was about 18". notice that half his tail is missing.

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r159/ttas67/GEDC0321.jpg

Green Weenie
12-11-2008, 08:56 AM
Yeah. Here's one I caught on a blue weenie:

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/3985/1203081452ea0.th.jpg (http://img186.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1203081452ea0.jpg)

:biggrin:

ttas67
12-11-2008, 09:12 AM
yeah, looks like a cutout of your head on my body

Green Weenie
12-11-2008, 10:02 AM
WHAT!?! You're crazy, man! You wish you had a body like that.

afoshie
12-11-2008, 08:49 PM
Paint creek is still pretty good fishing alot of the fish are out of the pools and kinda scattered. BH pheasant tails and hares ears 12 or 14 work well along with red copper johns and small streamers. Like they have said alot of the fish have been taken from the creek. I fish there quiet frequently and have been checked alot this year with them trying to stop this. Good Luck

ChemEAngler
12-13-2008, 11:52 AM
yeah, looks like a cutout of your head on my body

Hey Trevor, check your email.

Travis