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Kytroutbum
01-09-2009, 05:18 PM
Is Mustad changing over their hooks??http://www.flyanglersonline.com/bb/showthread.php?t=25511. I use Mustads as I throw them into brush anyway. I've been watching the prices gradually climb every year. Hope not!!

troutslayer3393
01-09-2009, 05:25 PM
I dont Know. I know that for the price they are some of the best hooks on the market. You can get alot more for the money than for example umpqua. But I have to admit that I am a Dia-Riki guy.

flyman
01-09-2009, 09:47 PM
They are phasing out the standard models and replacing them with the Signature series. Same dimensions and characteristics, the new models will have both the new number code and the old one for reference. They will cost more but they will be better hooks. Better stock up now ;)

tennswede
01-09-2009, 10:07 PM
They also moved production from Norway to their "State of the art" China plant according to the package label. I'm just getting a little tired of prices going up on products where they move production to China. Supposedly they are making them cheaper in China right? but then why is the price going up. Greed as usual.

Note this is not a complaint on LRO, it's just an opinion on Mustad's corporate decisions.

Kytroutbum
01-10-2009, 07:35 AM
Check out Dr. Fish on this thread. Maybe things will not be that bad. I still remember when hooks were $5.95 per 100. Wasn't that long ago was it?? Excuse me a minute I've got to chase Dino out of the garden.
http://www.flyanglersonline.com/bb/showthread.php?t=25511&page=2

Randall Sale
Kytroutbum

flyman
01-10-2009, 09:50 AM
I had almost stoped using them anyway. There were several other hooks out there that were better hooks. I don't have Oprah money but a couple more cents for a hook was worth it to me.

Stonefly
01-10-2009, 11:35 AM
One of the blogs I read had a piece on this in the past couple of days. No more production of the standard hooks as of Jan 1.

I've been using the Signature hooks for a year or two I guess. I look at them as a cheaper alternative to TMC's. Haven't bought any of the old Mustads in years.

sb

Stonefly
01-10-2009, 11:52 AM
On the other hand, Gierach's comment in Good Flies I believe, was something like "when's the last time you had a Mustad break on you?"

Still, to me it's not the wire, but the points. The modern hooks, TMC, Daiichi, Sig etc, have much better points than the old Mustads.

sb

jeffnles1
01-10-2009, 01:39 PM
I've used Mustad regular, Mustad Signature, TMC, and even some house brand hooks.

I can honestly say I've never lost a fish due to a hook failure. I've lost plenty of fish due to Jeff failures, and I've left ornaments just out of reach in more than a few trees and under more than a few stream bed rocks.

I've even spooked every trout in 3 counties with my extreem casting skills. It takes considerable skill to make a #20 griffith gnat smack the water with the force of a 15lb concrete block. It's a true art, trust me on that one.

However, with all the creative ways I've found to not catch fish, I honestly cannot say I can blame any of them on a hook failure regardless of the brand and type of hook I use. (of course, I can always start adding new excuses to my bag of tricks though).

Jeff

PeteCz
01-10-2009, 05:34 PM
It takes considerable skill to make a #20 griffith gnat smack the water with the force of a 15lb concrete block.

The year has just begun, but that right there is one of the best quotes of the year, so far...

BlueRaiderFan
01-10-2009, 05:54 PM
I've used Mustad regular, Mustad Signature, TMC, and even some house brand hooks.

I can honestly say I've never lost a fish due to a hook failure. I've lost plenty of fish due to Jeff failures, and I've left ornaments just out of reach in more than a few trees and under more than a few stream bed rocks.

Jeff

I've bought $30 worth of flies from LRO only to leave them in trees within two days...I've perfected the art. If my sister goes with me, you can double the amount. You made me chuckle by the way...thanks.

Kytroutbum
01-10-2009, 07:10 PM
BlueraiderFan's comment "I've bought $30 worth of flies from LRO only to leave them in trees within two days."reminded me of two patterns that I noticed raising from this fishing report this past summer.

1) While most fly shops were going under this summer, It seems there has been more "suggestions" about using tandem flies, I wonder if LRO's flies sales have increased!(:>) I've found a Stimi-Copper John combo and a Parachute Adams- Gray nymph combo while fishing my single fly off one branch. Two combo's one branch!! I didn't need a combo to bag that tree.

2) Also note, that there are suggestions to fish above Elkmont (which everyone knows is fishless) but then comments are made about their evening "trips" above Tremont! So next spring and summer when planning your trips, skip Elkmont and fish above Tremont.

All in fun!! Had to rabble rouse one last time, heading to Florida Tuesday morning just ahead of the zero and below temp's.

Randall Sale
Ky(snook)bum till March

jeffnles1
01-10-2009, 07:14 PM
Pete and Blue,
Always happy to be of service to my fellow fishermen.

Blue, it took you 2 days to lose $30 worth of flies? Hey, I think you're doing pretty good.

Not to hijack the thread, but have you guys ever noticed that the fly hung in the tree is just low enought that you thing you SHOULD be able to reach it, but just high enough that you CANNOT reach it? Also, I've noticed that any tippet lighter than 5X is absolutely worthless in pulling the tree branch that extra 2" you need to reach your fly.

Back to hooks, I've never even had a hook break when trying to pull down a tree. It's always the tippet that snaps before the hook.

Jeff

troutslayer3393
01-10-2009, 07:26 PM
This fall the tip of my rod broke off trying to get a fly out of a tree

Kytroutbum
01-10-2009, 09:33 PM
Cut right behind the barbs of a large treble hook leaving as much curve as possible. Tie a line( I use some kevlar casting line) to the eye then to a piece of dowel. Hang up in a tree, put one of the hooks in your tip top and hook the branch using your rod with the remaining ones. Pull your rod out SAFELY then pull on the line to bring the branch into reach. I made one that rolls up in a film cansister in my vest.

Randall Sale
Ky(snook)bum till March

jeffnles1
01-10-2009, 11:03 PM
Cut right behind the barbs of a large treble hook leaving as much curve as possible. Tie a line( I use some kevlar casting line) to the eye then to a piece of dowel. Hang up in a tree, put one of the hooks in your tip top and hook the branch using your rod with the remaining ones. Pull your rod out SAFELY then pull on the line to bring the branch into reach. I made one that rolls up in a film cansister in my vest.

Randall Sale
Ky(snook)bum till March

KYsnookBum,
Oh, but it's so much more fun to stand upon the top of a slick tippy rock and leap into the air while trying to grasp the end of the elusive branch while other fly fishermen on the river are both rooting for your success and snickering at the fall and cold water bath that are soon to follow.

As proof fly fishermen are absolutely insane, we'll not think twice about spencding hundreds of dollars on a rod, sixty dollars on a line, twenty dollars on a box to keep our flies safe, but we'll gladly risk life and limb to retrieve a two dollar fly. We'll feel nearly as much pride in saving that one fly as we do in catching a large trout. Yes, we are insane, but it's a good crazy though.

Jeff

Kytroutbum
01-10-2009, 11:40 PM
As proof fly fishermen are absolutely insane, we'll not think twice about spencding hundreds of dollars on a rod, sixty dollars on a line, twenty dollars on a box to keep our flies safe, we are insane, but it's a good crazy though.

Jeff

And then gripe about the cost of hooks!!

BlueRaiderFan
01-11-2009, 12:03 AM
Pete and Blue,
Always happy to be of service to my fellow fishermen.

Blue, it took you 2 days to lose $30 worth of flies? Hey, I think you're doing pretty good.

Not to hijack the thread, but have you guys ever noticed that the fly hung in the tree is just low enought that you thing you SHOULD be able to reach it, but just high enough that you CANNOT reach it? Also, I've noticed that any tippet lighter than 5X is absolutely worthless in pulling the tree branch that extra 2" you need to reach your fly.

Back to hooks, I've never even had a hook break when trying to pull down a tree. It's always the tippet that snaps before the hook.

Jeff


Better yet, there is a rock below the branch that you are convinced will help you reach your fly, only in reality, all it does is allow you to be even higher up when you finally lose your balance and fall into the water.:eek:

On a side note, I take offense to the suggestion that there are no fish above Elkmont!...I have seen them. I just can't catch them!:biggrin:

Kytroutbum
01-11-2009, 12:08 AM
Sh!!!! They are really mirages.

BlueRaiderFan
01-11-2009, 01:32 AM
They may as well be if I'm fishing for them lol.