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VersaillesKy
02-18-2009, 12:22 PM
Looking for info on campsites and fishing along the Lakeshore Trail between campsites 86 and 74. We will be spending a night at 84 and then will go down the Hazel to turn east on Lakeshore, probably spending the next night at 81 or 77, then finishing off the trip heading east on Lakeshore out to Lake View Drive. The map shows a number of streams going into the Lake (at 77,76, 98) and I am curious as to whether any of these (or others not on map) are worth the time and effort to break from the hike and do some fishing. This will be the last day of March or first day of April. Thanks.

sammcdonald
02-18-2009, 06:11 PM
just make sure to get your back country permits (free, but required) and check that you don't need reservations for them....

VersaillesKy
02-18-2009, 08:57 PM
Thanks. Knew about permits and the only campsite on our loop that requires a reservation is 83, and we are not staying there. Any info on the fishing along the Lakeshore Trail (from 86 east) would be appreciated.

Jim

Speckleman5
02-19-2009, 08:30 PM
Maybe fish around the mouth where they run in, they are all pretty small. Pikey Creek is small but may hold fish, I doubt it though haven't checked it the last couple years since the drought.

old tom
02-20-2009, 03:39 PM
Don't take this to the bank because I can't find the source of my recollection. But I seem to recall reading somewhere that Pilkey didn't hold any fish because they had been killed off or something like that is the past.

Speckleman5
02-20-2009, 06:16 PM
Yeah, I believe that is correct, but you never know when a fat daddy lake rianbow might run up there. I know that the drought the last couple summers would have made it very very very very small. I would highly doubt it holds any.

Slipstream
02-26-2009, 02:56 PM
Pilkey Creek is is very small and shallow and would not be worth stopping to fish. Steep cascades just upstream from the lake would keep lake fish from moving up. What Pilkey Creek does have is a very interesting historical cemetery less than a half mile above the Lakeshore Trail. Follow the gravelled path upstream from the Lakeshore Trail and watch for a footpath to the left that ascends to a knob. The cemetery is well kept. Most of the people buried here died before their 40th birthday, a testament to how hard mountain life must have been. There are many infants as well as a woman whose marker says was over 100 years old at her death. There is also a picnic area built at lakeside for the families that come over to tend the cemetery.

For fishing, you can try Chambers Creek, which is also small but does hold some fish. The fishing here mostly consists of dappling the fly through the laurel into the intermittent deeper pockets of water. This stream probably does best after a rain when the water is high and other streams are blown out.

old tom
02-26-2009, 03:52 PM
I'll second what Slipstream said. Chambers is not a destination stream, but if you're passing by or camping there, it won't be a waste of time. I recall it being more open closer to the lake and getting tighter as you head upstream (no surprise). All smallish rainbows, but it still beats skipping rocks across the lake.

Speckleman5
02-26-2009, 06:44 PM
After the first wooden bridge where the Lakeshore trail crosses the creek it gets pretty tight. I don't know why I didn't list that one.... there is a good chance that a big rainbow may be laying around in a hole around the lake but the creek forks not far above the lake. After you pass the first old homeplace you come to it gets pretty grown over, great bass fishing all the way up the channel though. I wopuld just wait and hit Forney when I got to 74, bigger water and probably warmer too.

VersaillesKy
02-27-2009, 11:14 AM
Thanks for the advice. Not spending too much time at these smaller creeks and waiting to put in the time at Forney (campsite 74) probably makes sense. But I have a question. My online map (http://www.nps.gov/grsm/planyourvisit/upload/Trail%20map%2008.pdf) does not show the names of the creeks at 77, 76 and 98. Are Pikey Creek and Chambers Creek one of these creeks coming in at these campsites?

old tom
02-27-2009, 11:55 AM
I recommend this map to anyone spending much time at all in the Park. I'll bet LRO carries it as does the GSMNP Association (all profits go back into the Park). It will have all the major creek names on it as well as a lot of other helpful information.

http://www.nps.gov/grsm/supportyourpark/bookstore.htm

I don't have my good map with me now, but CS# 98 is definitely Chambers. I think #77 is Pilkey.