View Full Version : Whats you Top 5 Tailwater Flies

02-28-2009, 07:30 PM
I was wanting to post a fun thread on everybody's top 5 tailwater flies

1. olive/red zebra midge

2. stripper midge

3. CDC tan caddis


5. thread midge

milligan trout degree
02-28-2009, 09:17 PM
Blue wing olive nymph
san juan worm
cdc comparadun (seasonal at to what kind)
thread midge
wooly bugger (olive, beadhead)

02-28-2009, 09:24 PM
Zebra Midge
EHC Stimulator
Soft Hackles

03-01-2009, 01:22 AM
Dang I don't thing I've even fished 5 flies :rolleyes:

Zebra midge
Flashback Hares Ear
Wooly bugger

03-01-2009, 08:50 AM
and then 3 which the names would mean nothing to anyone other then me. Midgish patterns is the only way to describe them.

03-01-2009, 09:11 AM
I would have to say my top five would be:

Zebra Midge

Small size 24 Black Fly (South Holston special)

Stripper Midge


Parachute Adams

03-01-2009, 11:40 AM
Zebra Midge
Chicago Fly
RL Prince Nymph

03-01-2009, 11:58 AM
I have found the following to be effective --

1. Tim's Trout Candy (Tim Page's own design fly) beneath a San Juan worm with strike indicator above the SJ worm.

2. My own design small woolly buggers. I have been tying my own black and green WB on size 10 - 14 hooks with gold glass bead heads and three different colors of Sulky Holoshimmer (from Joanns) for the tail. They have been work extremely well this winter on the stocked trout. (I caught 20 RBs in two hours on Friday, for example.)

03-01-2009, 02:53 PM
1. Black zebra midge
2. Olive Zebra Midge
3. Stripper midge
4. Sulfur
5. EHC
What exactly is a thread midge?

03-01-2009, 02:58 PM
A thread midge is just a midge hook wrapped with thread... Or a zebra midge without the wire.

David Knapp
03-01-2009, 03:09 PM
My top tailwater flies would depend on what tailwater we were talking about but various midges would always be high on the list...

Flat Fly n
03-02-2009, 12:31 AM
1. Gangsta Midge

2. Parker's Pupae

3. Sowbug

4. Flashback PTN

5. Closed cell foam CDC Half & Half

6. IF the tailwater has caddis.... X-caddis in whatever colors are hatching

7. And if Seagull is around....Pine squirrel Christmas bugger

None of the flies are what you think they are, but oooohhh so important to me on tailwaters.

03-02-2009, 10:04 AM
1. Christmas Bugger
2. George Nymph
3. Sulfur CDC
4. Sowbug
5. DC emerger

03-02-2009, 11:52 AM
1 - Gray Zebra Midge
2 - PTO ( personal version of a Pheasant tail)
3 - orange scud
4 - SISCE (sissy) another personal tie for "stuck in shuck,cripple/emerger" for various mayflies such as sulfurs or bwo
5 - x - caddis

03-02-2009, 12:32 PM
Waterborn's PTO
Olive or Grey Midge
X Caddis

03-02-2009, 07:42 PM
For those who remember him lets raise a glass to Eddie George......the gentleman who came up with the George Nymph. Thanks Seagull.

03-02-2009, 08:14 PM
The running back?

03-02-2009, 08:17 PM
That would be a NO!

03-02-2009, 10:02 PM
RED RUMMM, RED RUMMM...man thats supposed to be secret :rolleyes: but its a deadly pattern for sure of Varmits concoction - it has a dedicated row in the flybox...

Though I've not the honor of knowing Eddie George, his nymph is a heck of a pattern thats killer in the Smokies - great alone or as a dropper off a thunderhead... will have to try on a tailwater...

03-02-2009, 10:47 PM
That would be a NO!


This be it?


03-02-2009, 10:50 PM
olive crapadan, olive crapadan,olive crapadan, big prince w\caddis collar,small prince\caddis collar

03-03-2009, 01:00 AM

#1.. A Red-Neck Prince (tied midge style)
#2.. A Black and Silver Ice Cream Cone
#3. Black bead head Zebra midge
#4.. Olive Micro Booger
#5.. Gray Ozark Sow Bug

in that order..............Tentwing

03-03-2009, 09:11 AM
All hail the Red-Neck Prince!!!!

If I were gonna list 6, the ol' RNP would be it.

03-03-2009, 10:20 AM
1. Green Machine Soft Hackle
2. Grumpy's "BHGAPT"
3. Dan O Magic
4. Black/Silver Zebra Midge
5. Orange/Partridge Soft Hackle

03-03-2009, 11:40 AM
Ok questions:

What the heck is a "gangsta midge" and what the heck is a "olive crapadan"?


cockeye valdez
03-03-2009, 03:05 PM
I agree with some,
BHPT always with a dropper,
stripper midge, these change on the so.ho. from morning to afternoon.
b.w.o. usually with c.d.c. and biot body.
black fly
my response may technically be more than 5,

03-03-2009, 04:42 PM
Ok questions:

what the heck is a "olive crapadan"?


I was wondering the same thing. If the spelling is correct, I feel a story is required as to how this was named.

03-03-2009, 07:54 PM
I don't really know the origin of the fly but it showed up in the Cumberland TU Chapter about a year or so ago, neat looking little fly and I have seen it tied in a couple of variations...still looking for the recipe for it and if I can find it I will post it for you.

03-03-2009, 09:13 PM
yeah i'd like to see a pic of it. just curious

cockeye valdez
03-04-2009, 04:03 PM
As I think more about the inquiry as to my five favorite flies, it reminded me of a question I ask my friend who taught me much about the sport/art that I love so much. On our way to the stream I ask him what he was planning to use, his response was, "don't know, haven't looked yet." His reply taught me a lot. So in thinking about it more it I want to submit my list of 5 favorite flies again.
1. the one the fish are taking
2. the next one they take after they stop feeding on the first.
3. hopefully one I have in my box
4. hopeully the one I can tie later.
5. and this is the most important, the one that will release our companions back to their home with as little damage to them as possible.

bonus fly
the bug that will not attrack so many fish that I forget that time spent on the water is not about producing numbers but a spiritually meditative experience with Nature.

Flat Fly n
03-04-2009, 07:05 PM
Midge pattern that is my "go to" #1 fly that to my knowledge is not on the market anywhere. Therefore I will keep it that way, unless LRO wants to sign me up on contract. HA

PS. "It mows 'em down"

03-06-2009, 01:23 AM
Ok, the Little River thread posting rules state, "you cannot post the name of a successful fly without also posting a picture and tying instructions"

Sorry, it's in the rules so cough it up!

Flat Fly n
03-06-2009, 02:43 PM
I was born at night but it wasn't last night...sorry!

Last time I gave out a nice pattern to a fellow on the trout stream the same exact pattern was being sold about 3 weeks later at the sporting goods store off Merchants Drive (now closed) with a note on "this fly caught a 4# brown last week on the Clinch". It has also been tied my me and another person at LRO on those Saturday mornings "Daycare for Addicted Flytiers" workshops. True story. That's the Parker's pupea.

Here is my mud minnow pattern however!


03-06-2009, 03:41 PM
ahhhhh, I can't see the pics!!! Internet nazis!

I've got several patterns that I tie that i've never seen elsewhere but i want them to be a lot more successful before I sing their praises.

Flat Fly n
03-08-2009, 04:26 PM
Next time you come to town (Fayetteville, TN ?). Let me know, and maybe we can meet up and fish somewhere, and I'll bring the flies...deal?

I can't get a picture of the Parker's right now. I loaned my digital camera out to a guy going to of all places ....Patagonia! I don't think I like him anymore.

03-08-2009, 07:34 PM
Thread midge

Grey caddis (the Cumberland should be coated with them the middle of May)

ICSI Midge

San Juan worm

CDC #18 sulphur

Randy Ratliff
03-08-2009, 08:14 PM

03-11-2009, 10:48 AM
Flat Fly N: I don't think I like him anymore either!

I live in Fayetteville so i'm ready when you are bro! Might try to get an evening in this weekend!!

03-27-2009, 07:15 PM
I was wondering the same thing. If the spelling is correct, I feel a story is required as to how this was named.

I'm not too sure about getting a story behind the Crapadan, but the person that developed and shared the fly is Jackson Russell, here in Nashville, and he posted his secret weapon in the Trout Unlimited Newsletter about a year and a half ago. Those that have tied it and fished it really like it. I had lost my copy of that newsletter but Dr. Dick Davis, president of the Cumberland Chapter of Trout Unlimited, was kind enough to help me out with the information. Many Many Thanks Dr. Davis.

Hook - Tiemco 2457 14 - 20 with 16 seeming to be the favorite size
Thread - Olive Dun 6/0
Head - Tungsten Copper Bead 7/64
Rib - Fine Copper Wire 5 to 6 wraps
Tail - Five Olive Pheasant Tail Fiber Tips or a wispy tail of amber Darlon
Body - The remaining tail fiber butts.
Collar - Peacock Ice Dubbing

I will try to post a few pics after I get the chance to tie more of them. Right now I have 3 bamboo rods on the bench and one fiberglass and all of those need to be finished first. Hopefully, I haven't given away someones secret fly. Jack was nice enough to post the recipe and a picture in the TU Newsletter so I guess it is public information and I would like to see him get the credit for it anyway.

03-27-2009, 08:15 PM
thats not my crapadan pattern

03-27-2009, 08:49 PM
Hook - Tiemco 2457 14 - 20 with 16 seeming to be the favorite size
Thread - Olive Dun 6/0
Head - Tungsten Copper Bead 7/64
Rib - Fine Copper Wire 5 to 6 wraps
Tail - Five Olive Pheasant Tail Fiber Tips or a wispy tail of amber Darlon
Body - The remaining tail fiber butts.
Collar - Peacock Ice Dubbing

Sounds like a mix between an Olive Quasimoto PT and Fishermansfly PT Cruiser

03-27-2009, 09:38 PM
I notice a stripper midge mentioned by several folks, what's
a stripper midge?

My favorites are:
V-rib midge
elk hair caddis

03-27-2009, 10:04 PM
I notice a stripper midge mentioned by several folks, what's
a stripper midge?

Check out this thread:


03-28-2009, 01:56 AM
Good looking bug. I have seen something similar tied with natural goose biot. On that thread, it mentions being hard to put beads on something that small, and it is, but Wapsi has a neat pair of tweezers called beadzers that makes it a lot easier for putting beads on any size hook unless it is smaller than like a 26.