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lexfly
09-16-2009, 12:51 PM
Well I can check one thing off my bucket list. A friend and I finally made the trip to Hazel and was not disappointed. I've never had 5 days (3 full days fishing) pass so fast. We took the canoe from Cable Cove across on Wednesday and came out on Sunday. Stayed at Bone Valley with no else the entire time and only one guy at Sugar Fork. The bear(s) were active and I had one walk past me on the bank while I was in the stream and Doug had one cross the stream below him while fishing. But the guy at Sugar Fork had one visit him during dinner and was reluctant to leave (which resulted from a visit from the ranger and a sign being posted at Sugar Fork). The fishing was as good as I have experienced in the park and there are 2 15 inch plus fish with my Green Weenies stuck in their jaws between Brown's pool and Bone Valley. While landing one or both would have been great, they both gave me quite a thrill for the few seconds we were attached. I love my new TFO 3 weight, but I am not good enough to land fish like that, especially with 6x. I have nothing to compare the water level to, but it seemed fine to me. I can't imagine that the fishing gets much better, but I hear October is the time to go. If I could go back right now I would, but I wouldn't have a family or job when I returned. I can only say that I will return as soon as I can. There is so much more to see there. I didn't go up Bone Valley or Sugar Fork or much past our campsite and really didn't spend much time exploring old Proctor. Sorry to be such a babbling fool, but it really was an amazing trip. As soon as I figure out how to post pictures, I will.
Tye

gmreeves
09-16-2009, 02:36 PM
Sounds like you had a good time. I'm glad the greenie weenie is still producing. I've never fished one but plan on it this weekend if I manage it up there on Saturday afternoon.

fearnofishbob
09-16-2009, 11:09 PM
Tye, sounds like you and Doug had a fine trip. I have been on Hazel numerous times and have always enjoyed it. We were there when the flood hit in 2005 and luckily made it out just before the second bridge got washed out. We had a boat tied up at the mouth of the creek and it got flooded - we lost the motor ( someone stole it off the transom that was sticking up out of the water ) we did go back about 2 weeks later when the water went down and got the boat. We had to leave our camp at Sugar Fork quickly when the Park Service came to check the bridges they took us down to the lake and tried to help us get the boat out but to no avail. We left all of our gear at Sugar Fork for 5 days and when we were able to get back to the camp it looked as though we had just been gone for a few minutes -- absolutely nothing was disturbed - no bears, racoons and I don't believe even a mouse had been in our food or belongings. All of our camping gear, fishing equiptment and cameras were left behind when we pulled out so quickly
Bone valley creek is good fishing but the next time you go be sure and go above Bone Valley on the main creek a mile or so - fishing is unbelievable. Don't waste your time on Sugar fork, it fizzels out pretty quickly.
We have since replaced the motor and gotten a new boat and have made several trips back to Hazel......... remind me sometime and I'll tell you another "fishin' story" , this one is true..........fearnofishbob....tight lines

lexfly
09-18-2009, 10:51 AM
fearnofishbob,
Sounds like you've had quite a few adventures at Hazel. Being there during the flood must have been a tad scary. When talking about fishing Bone Valley are you saying a mile up Bone Valley Creek or a mile up Hazel from Bone Valley? Love you hear your fishin story. Can't wait to get back there.

fearnofishbob
09-18-2009, 10:38 PM
Tye, sorry I didn't mean to confuse you. I should have been more specific, continue up Hazel Creek and you will come to a cabin on the left that the Park services uses from time to time. from this cabin on up on Hazel you should be in some terrific water. Bone Valley creek has never been real productive but it is worh a trip to the end of the road to see the restored cabin that is there. It is really a special place and I'm sure you would enjoy the trip. Another creek you might enjoy as well is Eagle creek. It is not as long asHazel but I enjoy fishing it as much and maybe more that Hazel. It would be a long canoe trip from Cable cove or the marina at the dam either one. You might want to consider the ferry if you go to Eagle..........tight lines... Bob

lexfly
09-21-2009, 08:57 AM
Bob,
The ranger that came and talked to us a the bear suggested Eagle too. It is on my list. Taking the canoe was realy more of one of those things I said I'd do one day. It is out of my system now. I'll take the ferry in the future. can't wait to get back. Thanks
Tye

fearnofishbob
09-21-2009, 02:16 PM
Tye, if you go to the marina( which is about your only choice) they will charge about $50.00 round trip to either Eagle or Hazel. That amount may have changed since I haven't used their shuttle service in several years. Third option would be to go to Forney Creek. It is another "super" creek. You can use a state maintained boat ramp that is directly across the lake from Forney or you can park at the end of the "Road To Nowhere" and backpack to Forney......about 2.5 - 3.0 miles one way. Camp site # 74 would be the site where you would want to stay it is about 1/4 mile above the lake and from there you could fish up stream. Excellent fishing...........Bob

GrouseMan77
09-21-2009, 02:40 PM
fearnofishbob,

The ferry is still $50.00 round trip.

fearnofishbob
09-21-2009, 03:09 PM
Thanks Jason, I thought some of my friends had used the ferry pretty recently and the fare was still 50 but I wasn't sure. We bought a boat and motor to save ferry cost, we were going so frequently it got expensive. Now we can come and go as we please..........Thanks

Ghost
09-23-2009, 10:27 PM
What are the 'docking' conditions like at Hazel, Forney and Eagle? With a canoe, do you just get it well-up out of the way and leave it upside down?
I've got too many canoes and kayaks to be paying $50 for a half hr. boat ride:-)!
Ghost

Slipstream
09-24-2009, 01:04 PM
The question about leaving a boat gets asked quite a bit, and it's a good question. At all these river mouths you will be entering a cove where the river pours into the lake. The trail at each is a gravel road leading into the woods. Despite the wilderness setting, there is a good deal of human activity at these sites, with Hazel being the busiest. Hazel usually will have a park Ranger boat and/ or car stationed at the landing area. The others have park campsites at or near the lake.

You will likely have some company at the trailhead. There may be several canoes and/ or motorboats moored there. There is plenty of room to tie up or pull your boat onto the bank. Most of the boats are not locked, and I have not heard of problems or experienced any problems with theft. However, you are in a public area. If you are concerned, it would be easy to pull your canoe up the bank and chain or lock it to a tree. Keep in mind you need to leave the gravel landing area and gravel pathway open for the use of the park service's landing-craft style boat, that docks at these sites and discharges vehicles and other equipment, as well as the ferry boats shuttling passengers.

lexfly
09-24-2009, 01:47 PM
Ghost,
I just got back from Hazel a couple of weeks ago. We canoed across from Cable Cove and locked the canoe to a tree, left the paddles under it and had no problems. There were a couple of boats moored there when we got there and different ones when we left and there were several that came in or out of the cove while we were paddling over and back. The rangers drove up the trail on Friday and Saturday of our 4 day trip. I loved the canoe trip over, but not so much on the way back. An hour canoe trip after packing out was not as fun. Especially when the ferry drove past us. Most of the time the boats didn't slow down when they passed us which made paddling the canoe with 2 packs more exciting than I wanted it to be. If I was doing it over, I'd take my little jon boat over from cable cove. Lexfly

fearnofishbob
09-24-2009, 02:05 PM
Thats it Ghost !!... get it out of the water attach to a tree , hide paddles and be on your way. Be sure to get far enough from the water that it won't be covered up should there be high water. This is where we went wrong in'05 whene the flood hit, our boat didn't have enough slack chain and the water rose to the point that it pulled our boat under.
The conditions are the same at all creeks in the park. ...............Bob

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hw3
09-29-2009, 07:47 PM
Any time after the bugs are gone, mostly, in the fall is great. Take your smallest rod up Bone Valley; are many trout there. Saw the biggest brown trout in my GSMNP experience, and he wore a #14 yellow Stimmie for a while after our encounter. I like Cold Spring, abt a mile or so past BV C/S, there is a camp there, and only place I have caught Slam. Easier to take waders and dress there; is cable for gear to put in trees. Congrats on a trip well worth taking over and over again. Watson