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tjw37909
10-08-2009, 06:07 PM
I fished three days this week. The first two days I could not buy a fish no matter where I went; no matter if I threw dries, nymphs, or any combination. I even went to Cherokee for some stockers yesterday and only caught 1 fish. A coworker and I went back to Cherokee today and I finally caught some fish, including my first brown ever. I got a 7 and a 10 inch brown. I had no luck with an indicator no matter what depth I fished so I broke down and started high sticking and started catching well. Draggin tandem nymphs seemed to be the only way I could get a fish today. Guess I will have to try that method more when I am on bigger streams to get my nymphs down. Will post some pics later. Wish I had a pic of "the one that got away."

BlueRaiderFan
10-08-2009, 06:51 PM
Congrats! (Next time you're on big water, throw a size 8 or 10 hopper...I dare you):biggrin:

tjw37909
10-08-2009, 09:38 PM
Wat would be good to drop off the hopper if anything? Just threw princes and pheasant tails today.

tjw37909
10-09-2009, 02:39 AM
Here are the pics. Had to take them at home since I forgot to take the camera.
The one on the top left is one of the two browns I caught. It is 10 inches.
http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae277/tjw37909/PA074880.jpg

The 10 inch brown seemed small beside the 14 and 15 inch fat bows seen here. I accidentally cropped half of one out.

http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae277/tjw37909/PA074885.jpg

BlueRaiderFan
10-09-2009, 07:22 AM
You can fish any dropper off of it for the area that you are in. I fish a midge dropper everywhere I go and seem to do ok. Or you can skip it and focus on the big boys all day.

MadisonBoats
10-09-2009, 11:02 AM
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You seem to keep every fish...:eek:

BlueRaiderFan
10-09-2009, 11:23 AM
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You seem to keep every fish...:eek:


Hey, the boy's HUNGRY! :biggrin:

Kytroutbum
10-09-2009, 11:37 AM
I believe and hope those were stockers from the res-. Actually, being heretical, it wouldn't have hurt for SOME of those to have come from the park. Still can't bring myself to keep any though, but the Brookies from Wyoming tasted GREAT!

Randall Sale
the Kytroutbum

Grannyknot
10-09-2009, 11:45 AM
You seem to keep every fish...:eek:

Not accusing you of anything, and I'm not sure exactly where you were fishing, just some good information...


Daily Possession Limits
Five (5) brook, rainbow or brown trout, smallmouth bass, or a combination of these, each day or in possession, regardless of whether they are fresh, stored in an ice chest, or otherwise preserved. The combined total must not exceed five fish.

Twenty (20) rock bass may be kept in addition to the above limit.

A person must stop fishing immediately after obtaining the limit.

tjw37909
10-09-2009, 03:18 PM
Yes they were all reservation fish from Raven Fork above the trophy section but outside the park. I only keep fish from stocked streams. The limit over there is 10 fish per person. We kept seventeen between 2 of us. I usually fish in the park, but I never keep any fish at all from the park. I just release them and hope they will get bigger for someone else to catch later. Sorry for the confusion.

Rog 1
10-09-2009, 03:42 PM
Back before the advent of catch and release most fishermen in the Park were there with the idea of putting something on the table....the only times I have ever noticed a drop in the number of fish has been after a natural intervention....drought or flood as an example....it has been well established on this board that there is only a certain number of fish that can be sustained within any mile of the Park's streams....unless some of these fish are removed there will be an over population of fish competing for a given level of food...this results in stunted fish. I have read repeatedly in the past years about the small size of the trout being caught. This was happening years ago on Tremont and then one summer the Park tried to fish out the rainbows to work on a brook trout program...that program never got off the ground but the next year there were just as many fish but bigger all around. Last years drought has had the same result in the Park this year....fishing above Elkmont last week it was clear that the fish coming to hand were much heavier than in the past years....keep returning the exceptional fish to the gene pool but don't be afraid to catch and release some of those trout into your local skillet and enjoy a little bit of what is a natural part of the experience.

Speckleman5
10-09-2009, 05:13 PM
I know I hope no one ever questions me about what I am doing when I put one. two, or 5 in my plastic bag. I'm getting my supper and its really none of their business.

MadisonBoats
10-09-2009, 09:53 PM
My comment was in regard to the small size of some of the fish.

Speckleman5,
Actually, if you put up pictures on a public message board-then, you are making it our business and people will comment how they see fit...

Additionally, I think it takes objectionable comments sometimes to bring import issues to the table and then we have supper...:biggrin:

tjw37909
10-10-2009, 07:06 AM
We threw back a lot of 6 inch rainbows. The smallest I kept is a 7 inch brown. I understand both sides and concerns guys. I simply follow the guidelines for keeping fish if I keep any at all (which is rarely). I do keep if I go to Cherokee , but they stock a million fish a year according to their website. Then again, I leave all fish in the park since the park is aimed towards preservation. Every one is entitled to their own opinion, and I believe it is fine to believe in keeping your limit or releasing them all, whichever the fisherman sees fit, as long as he/she doesn't surpass the guidelines set forth by the government agency that sets the limits based upon research they have done to see how many fish can be taken without devastating the population of the stream. I enjoy reading everyone's opinions and getting different points of view........just don't get too heated in the argument.

Brook Fan
10-10-2009, 09:24 AM
Well said tjw37909.
That is why we have fishing regulations.
If we were not supposed to take an occasional fish from time to time then they would not taste so good in the frying pan or on the grill :smile:

MadisonBoats
10-10-2009, 09:49 AM
Great reply! I understand your perspective and respect it... It is good to discuss issues like this once and a while...

No worries... it helps to educate and promote good fishing...:smile:

Rebelsoul
10-10-2009, 11:43 AM
I haven't kept any fish that I've caught in the park,which are mighty small and few,and I have wondered what kind of remarks might be made if somebody sees me keep a few to eat,naturally I can understand the reasons for releasing the better ones,and really for me with my fishing abilities,it's hard to understand how there can be x-thousand(s) of trout per mile,but I'll take their word for it.
But I do want to have a mess for supper in the future.

tjw37909
10-10-2009, 12:07 PM
I worked all night last night and barely slept this morning, but after having a dream about fishing then waking up and seeeing how overcast it is outside I have got to get up and try to head up MPLPR, a.k.a Greenbrier, and try to do a little fishing.

silvercreek
10-10-2009, 12:15 PM
Your right to let the breeding size go back. As long as you're within the regs, everyone else should keep their thoughts to themselves. Even catch and release can be overdone IMO. Good fishing.