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lauxier
01-19-2010, 03:18 PM
anyone seen Joe Humphrey's nymphing dvd?I watched it the other night.He took his nymphs and rubbed them on wet rocks to get any foreign scents off them and to ruff them up.I had never seen anyone do that before,wonder if it works.It's a real good dvd,he tries his best to explain how he fishes nymphs,in different waters.His rigs,casting techniques,and sinker weight relative to multi nymph rigs relative to the velocity of the current of the stream was pretty technical but he catches lots of fish and he's a master fly fisherman,which doesn't hurt anything.

silvercreek
01-19-2010, 05:17 PM
Dave Whitlock does that as well with nymphs.

troutslayer3393
01-19-2010, 10:57 PM
Any advice that Joe gives about fly fishing...Do IT!!!!!!!!!!

Jack
01-20-2010, 12:50 PM
Where can I get this wonderful bit of information? They don't sell stuff like that down here in south Mississippi.

Jim Casada
01-20-2010, 02:46 PM
Lauxier--Joe is an absolute jewel and a grand fisherman, but I wonder a bit about the scent thing. I was under the impression most fish had little if any sense of smell, with members of the catfish clan being a notable exception. However, I don't know that I've ever read anything scientific on the matter one way or the other. If there is a fisheries biologist out there, please advise.
Having just said this, I do know that one of the major "hardware" fishing companies makes some kind of scented trout bait which is supposed to work very well.
Jim Casada

lauxier
01-20-2010, 05:23 PM
I watched the Joe H. nymphing dvd because I have trouble nymph fishing,detecting strikes etc.I'm sure I don't set the hook enough when the line pauses or stops.I usually don't use an indicator.I've caught several fish over the years fishing a nymph.Like I said J.H.'s DVD is quite technical but there's lot's to learn here,Joe is above all,a teacher,I watched his other DVD on dry fly fishing in heavy cover,it is a great dvd as he explains various casting techniques to use when covered up by foliage,canopy,trees,logs,or anything limiting your ability to cast,and his pointers work,if you'll do as he says.Nymphing is harder to explain because so much of it has to do with a fishing sense,that's unexplainable.I don't think there are very many really good nymph fisherman,most are like me.. good intentions,intent on trying,but with the abilities and talent of an average to average- average fisherman.Joe makes it all look easy and that's good because we want "easy" when we are on a stream,but when we finally get to the reality of nymphing on a stream,we realize the "easy" is harder than hades and Joe's "easy"comes from decades of learned and practiced fishing,which he shares on his dvd's.

silvercreek
01-20-2010, 05:54 PM
Jim, I'm no scientist of this subject, but trout are a member of the salmon family, and salmon apparently have an excellent sense of smell. Maybe it carries over to their freshwater relatives. Don't know for sure. My preferred way of removing human and chemical scents from my flies is to drag them through tree leaves on the backcast. Regards, Silvercreek

flatserious
01-22-2010, 11:37 AM
I can not speak for trout, but most saltwater fish have a keen sense of smell, Including sea trout or the other speckled trout. One of my favorite passions is getting sheepshead to eat a fly on oyster and grass flats as the flood, sort of north Florida's Permit when it comes to fly fishing. I believe one of the reasons they are so hard to catch on fly is their strong sense of smell. You can throw the perfect crab imitation right in there face as they are nosed down feeding and 95% of the time they will ignore it. You throw a mangled up crushed fiddler on a hook and they will devour it. Just my 2 cents on fish and smell.

AKSkim
01-30-2010, 09:52 PM
Anyone who has ever met Mr. Humphreys will tell you he is
truly a man of class.

He always gives other's credit and their due.

He doesn't say things to make himself seem bigger, just the opposite.

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb178/AKSkim/NEFF%20Posts%20Jan%202010/DSCN8439.jpg

As far as any of his videos/DVDs or books are concerns,
you can't go wrong.

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb178/AKSkim/NEFF%20Posts%20Jan%202010/DSCN8441.jpg

MadisonBoats
01-31-2010, 12:11 AM
You guys don't rub your nymphs on some native? I guess I must be the only fly tyer that washes his flies in some bottled river water before using them...?:biggrin:

GrouseMan77
01-31-2010, 09:38 AM
I got to meet Mr. Humphreys at Troutfest last year and was very impressed.

I had read in the Fishing Report that he had gone fishing with Walter Babb somewhere in the park. I asked how he had faired. He looked up at me from under his hat with a big smile and said "You know, we went up to a little mountain stream and caught a few....nothing under 20."

Can't speak for his videos but his books are fantastic.

Maurer
01-31-2010, 09:47 AM
That must be why we catch more fish towards the end of those week long/no bathing man trips!:rolleyes:

I absolutely believe trout can smell, plus Joe is the man!

Last year at Troutfest I rented the cabin across from Miss Lily's at the swinging bridge in Townsend. I was waiting for the wife to show up and walked out on the bridge, 30 minutes before the banquet and found Mr. Humphries fly fishing. He was fly fishing just 30 minutes before he had to be a special guest at the Troutfest Banquet! Thats just cool!

AKSkim
02-01-2010, 01:37 PM
but I wonder a bit about the scent thing. I was under the impression most fish had little if any sense of smell,

Jim Casada


Steelhead either in the Pacific Ocean or the Great Lakes return to their native river by the sense of smell that has been imprinted because they spent their first two years in that stream.

The state of New York will take eggs and deposit them via helo into the lake. That way when they are ready to spawn they will pick any stream to go up and spawn in because they have no imprint of any stream, just the lake.

Jim Casada
02-01-2010, 04:37 PM
Lauxier and others--I've found this really interesting on two scores. Like an idiot I had never made the obvious connection between the salmon's uncanny sense of smell and something similar in trout. Should have been obvious since they are both salmonids.

As for Joe Humphrey, he is one of the sport's grand gentlemen. I've had the joy of crossing paths with Joe a number of times over the years, and what an ambassador for fly fishing is is and has long been. While both Joe and Lefty had made an appreciable mark as writers, that really isn't the greatest strength of either man. They are teachers. Joe was a most worthy successor to George Harvey in Pennsylvania while anyone who has spent much time listening to Lefty realizes that, in between the endless fund of jokes, he was born to be a teacher.
I've written on Lefty and interviewed him in detail. It's an interesting experience in that you have to settle back and listen to a born raconteur and pick out the plentiful nuggets of wisdom among the endless flow of humor.
Jim Casada
www.jimcasadaoutdoors.com (http://www.jimcasadaoutdoors.com)