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bcunnin1
02-18-2010, 12:42 PM
I am planning on either ordering or heading up to LRO for some warmwater flies in the next week or so. Wanted to get everyones opinions on what I should consider. I haven't really used my fly rod outside of trout so I am wanting a general collection.

Would also like some flies that work well in the colder temps and for the summer.

Thanks for the advice.

Ben

Troutman
02-18-2010, 02:03 PM
Going by what I remember LRO stocking for warm water fishing, I would get some Walt's poppers and Sneaky Petes for top water and for subsurface, some smaller Clousers (think baitfish) and some heavy leadeye buggers. The superbugger is good in tan and black. If they stock Kent's Stealth Bombers, get a few of them also. The covert mission is a knockoff but not as good. IMO.

For nymphs, soft hackles, prince, hares ears and pheasant tails work fine.

That should get you started

bcunnin1
02-18-2010, 02:49 PM
Thanks Troutman. Good news is I have a lot of those such as all manner of wooly buggers and all the nymphs.

Right now would you throw more of the nymphs or bait fish immitations.

Troutman
02-18-2010, 03:33 PM
Right now would you throw more of the nymphs or bait fish immitations.

Unless your fishing below a warm discharge plant, the water temps are really too low right now to effectively fish for warm water species with a fly rod. The fish are deep and lethargic. Now if your fishing in lakes, you could try the FNF (float and fly) technique by fishing with a jig fly under a strike indicator. This requires you to fish the fly very slowly about 10-12 ft deep. Lots of smallies are caught this time of year on Norris, South Holston, Cumberland, and Dale Hollow Lakes using FNF. If you can find a river with water temps in the high 40s to 50s , then you may find some feeding gills, but most will be in deep water and want a slow presentation in their face.
I follow several warm water fishing forums and about the only area right now that is seeing much action is south texas and those guys were fishing ponds.
Things will pick up in mid to late March

jeffnles1
02-18-2010, 04:28 PM
I tie most of my own warm water flies so I'm not sure what all LRO has for the warmies.

A lot of the answer to your question depend on what you'll be trying to catch and where you'll e fishing.

Woolie buggers - black, olive, brown, orange (crayfish) have always produced

poppers of all sizes and shapes and colors.

San Juan Worms

Anything looking like a baitfish with silver or flash in it.

nymphs always seem to work well for bluegill

I've caught bluegill on elk hair caddis flies.

I even caught a 3lb largemouth bass on a #12 Adams a couple years back. Don't ask how I landed it. The barbless hook held and fortunately, the bass didn't just inhale it into his gut. It was stuck neatly in his upper lip. Go figure.

Deer Hair bugs are also effective in warm water.

If you're into tying your own, I have some warm water patterns I have used to great effect on my blog. all of the materials can be bought at LRO (and most of the ones I tie do contain materials bought at LRO).

Jeff

bcunnin1
02-18-2010, 06:29 PM
Thanks for the responses guys. I got some ideas of things to look for now at LRO. I realize its a little cold right now but I am gonna throw some of these things out at a steam plant where the water temps are a little warmer and then use the rest of them this spring. When I said "right now" it was more of a reference to spring not the present. I should have been more clear.

silvercreek
02-19-2010, 10:26 AM
I mess around for bass on a flyrod a little. I'd give another vote for the Stealth Bomber. An issue of the LRO Journal gives tying directions. I also like the diver type of deer hair bugs. Love to see a bass bust a surface fly. Regards, Silvercreek

baldriver
02-20-2010, 02:14 PM
Try hopper imitations. My favorite is the Letort Hopper but, Dave's are also good.

waterwolf
03-02-2010, 10:56 AM
Here is the simplest answer I can give you, and this is all you will EVER need to catch river smallmouth.

Yellow poppers, small not monsters, but also not teeny bluegill sized. Walts are a good bet.

White streamers of some kind in a size 6 tied with rabbit fur, only. Don't waste money on clouser stuff, IMO they work, but not nearly as well as a rabbit strip fly.

And that is it, you can literally carry 2 patterns and catch smallmouth all summer, on every river, without having to deviate.

Troutman
03-25-2010, 11:39 AM
Here is the simplest answer I can give you, and this is all you will EVER need to catch river smallmouth.

Yellow poppers, small not monsters, but also not teeny bluegill sized. Walts are a good bet.

White streamers of some kind in a size 6 tied with rabbit fur, only. Don't waste money on clouser stuff, IMO they work, but not nearly as well as a rabbit strip fly.

And that is it, you can literally carry 2 patterns and catch smallmouth all summer, on every river, without having to deviate.

something like this? woolhead rabbit strip flies are a standard in my flybox.
the white and black woolheads are pretty simple to tie.

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l114/gltroutman/P3250003.jpg (http://s94.photobucket.com/albums/l114/gltroutman/?action=view&current=P3250003.jpg)

I also like yellow, and chartruese green poppers. This is one of my smallie sized #4 Firetiger "TM Fatheads".

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l114/gltroutman/P3250010.jpg (http://s94.photobucket.com/albums/l114/gltroutman/?action=view&current=P3250010.jpg)

Kent
03-26-2010, 05:43 PM
FYI, LRO does have the Stealth Bomber (thanks, Daniel & Byron).

It may be a little early to throw much topwater, but get `em before they're gone. In the meanwhile, try the Rubber-Legged Dragon deep and slow.

txbrown
03-26-2010, 07:56 PM
Troutman,

I love the FireTiger popper. I will be tying up some to fish.

I am headed to Townsend next Thursday to fish for 5 or so days and then meet some friends down in the Tellico area on Wednesday/Thursday depending upon the fishing. Was planning most trout but do you think the smallies will be moving below Townsend? Also, I saw that the canoe and shuttle service at River Johns opens in May. If I bring my 1 man pontoon is there any shuttle service available beside the Island?

Would love to hit the smallies right before spawn.

Thanks

ChemEAngler
03-27-2010, 10:15 PM
Troutman,

I have to tell you that you sir have been one of my biggest influences when it comes to warmwater flies. I tied a couple of poppers late last year like the one below, but thought it was a little dull:
http://knxtravis80.zenfolio.com/img/v7/p966557302-3.jpg
Still managed to catch some bluegill on it though.

After seeing your firetiger popper, I wanted to give one a try. So I bought some prismacolor markers and went to work. This was my third try, but I am quite happy with it:
http://knxtravis80.zenfolio.com/img/v7/p488896976-3.jpg

Those prismacolor "blend" markers are wonderful, really there are no limits with what one can do with them.