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MadisonBoats
06-05-2010, 12:03 PM
I noticed several of these stoneflies, the "little-greens" on the Clinch yesterday evening.

http://www.troutnut.com/im_extax/picture_95_medium.jpg

I have been throwing the nymph version with very effective results this year.

I tie it with: a gold bead on the 2/3 part of the shank with a pheasant tail, dub the abdomen with grey dubbing and wrap it loosely with orange stretch tubing to the bead. I wrap hackle ahead of the bead with more grey dubbing and then a head. Throw it ahead of a drift and the fish will eat it up:biggrin: Seems like the brookies like it the most for some odd reason...
http://www.troutnut.com/im_regspec/picture_3307_small.jpg

flyman
06-05-2010, 12:49 PM
Same family as the little yellow ones, different genus. Cool photo of the adults and their shucks:smile:

MadisonBoats
06-05-2010, 02:01 PM
Sorry to mislead you guys; I borrowed that first photo from Troutnut.com. I was without a camera and searched for the closest picture I could find. I do have one of the green flies in my sample kits if I can get a camera this weekend.

waterwolf
06-05-2010, 11:00 PM
That is interesting. In almost 25 years of fishing the Clinch I have never seen that stonefly on the river. For a long time it had the early little black stones, but I have not seen them recently, but that may be due to me not being on the river that time of year. Guess things have changed, and I just have missed them on the river.

MadisonBoats
06-06-2010, 11:06 AM
That is interesting. In almost 25 years of fishing the Clinch I have never seen that stonefly on the river. For a long time it had the early little black stones, but I have not seen them recently, but that may be due to me not being on the river that time of year. Guess things have changed, and I just have missed them on the river.

You probably would not have wanted to notice them if you use midges and bhpts all the time:biggrin: Nah, I have noticed several different types; especially around the small streams coming in to the Clinch. You just have to get out and poke around the shoals and rip up some of the moss. I have quite a few samples saved up; just need to get some glycerin before the colors bleach. I plan on getting a new camera this week-so; hopefully, I can start sharing some pics again...

waterwolf
06-06-2010, 10:59 PM
You probably would not have wanted to notice them if you use midges and bhpts all the time:biggrin: Nah, I have noticed several different types; especially around the small streams coming in to the Clinch. You just have to get out and poke around the shoals and rip up some of the moss. I have quite a few samples saved up; just need to get some glycerin before the colors bleach. I plan on getting a new camera this week-so; hopefully, I can start sharing some pics again...
Clear Creek would not surprise me, but the other two would. The water quality in both Cane and Coal is horrendous, and stoneflies require super clean water.

Just because I fish midges and other small nymphs doesn't mean I am not fully aware of what is going on around me. Stoneflies really aren't moss dwellers, they leave that more to mayflies, midges, and scuds. They generally prefer to wander around in the rocks and underneath them most of the time.

Looking forward to seeing pics of them on the Clinch.

psnapp
06-19-2010, 04:26 PM
Madison - wading behind Lewallen this a.m. in dense fog, friend spotted a big dry. He captured it and showed to me --- definitely a green stonefly like the Troutnut.com pic you posted, about size 12. Sure hope those bad boyz multiply quickly!

Phil

MadisonBoats
06-19-2010, 09:41 PM
Madison - wading behind Lewallen this a.m. in dense fog, friend spotted a big dry. He captured it and showed to me --- definitely a green stonefly like the Troutnut.com pic you posted, about size 12. Sure hope those bad boyz multiply quickly!

Phil

They are there; I am just tired of trying to explain myself. I smoke the brook trout on my nymph stone fly pattern. One odd thing; 80% of the time brook trout hit it.:confused: Not sure why.... I gave one to Rodonthefly the other day; maybe he can add some light to it...?

MadisonBoats
10-14-2011, 08:31 PM
I have been finding tons of these guys lately on the Clinch. Does anyone know what kind of bug it is...?
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/293941_10150432095298319_718858318_10279846_110185 2253_n.jpgI also have been finding plenty of October Caddis....
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/310353_10150432100283319_718858318_10279874_107851 3014_n.jpg

waterwolf
10-14-2011, 09:26 PM
I have been finding tons of these guys lately on the Clinch. Does anyone know what kind of bug it is...?
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/293941_10150432095298319_718858318_10279846_110185 2253_n.jpgI also have been finding plenty of October Caddis....
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/310353_10150432100283319_718858318_10279874_107851 3014_n.jpg
Looks like a lace wing. I do not think they are an aquatic insect. However, I could easily see them ending up on the river. They are pretty common this time of year, and will be around until the first hard freeze.

I have never seen one on the river, but that means nothing as my river days are usually over by the end of September.

MadisonBoats
10-16-2011, 08:34 AM
Looks like a lace wing. I do not think they are an aquatic insect. However, I could easily see them ending up on the river. They are pretty common this time of year, and will be around until the first hard freeze.

I have never seen one on the river, but that means nothing as my river days are usually over by the end of September.

Thanks for the reply. I was trying to research/refer back to this topic and to clarify my original post. I think this is the bug I was finding on the river. So; it may not be stone-fly as I originally thought two-years ago when I did not have a camera. I tried using all the online identification tools to figure it out; but, I am still stumped.:eek: I see them in yellow and in green on the river. Also; I have been finding a few October Caddis Adults in the evenings while walking along the river.

Another odd find for me has been some blood-type worms/midges on the lower end. I seined one two-weeks ago but, did not have any containers to save it in.

ChemEAngler
10-16-2011, 10:21 PM
Shawn,

I killed a ton of those green flies last night out on the farm, which happens to be miles from the closest coldwater source. I was intrigued by them, but glad to see that somebody else has been seeing them.

flyman
10-17-2011, 01:44 AM
MB & CA
I think the green and yellow insects you are seeing go by the common names "Green Lacewings" or "Snowy Tree Crickets". They are primarily green and yellow and about the same size as yellow stone flies. Do a google search for those insects and look as some of the photos.

http://www.fcps.edu/islandcreekes/ecology/green_lacewing.htm

Chem Angler if the wings are laying one on top of the other on those yellow insects you are seeing they are most likely Snowy Tree Crickets.

MadisonBoats
10-18-2011, 08:44 AM
Thanks for the input Waterwolf and Flyman. I believe you fellas have helped me identify this bug. I will try and look at it closer to make sure it is not some new species and to just help me learn more about bugs.

I saw a couple big-green cicadas on the water yesterday. I have never tied a pattern to fish with them. But, I am sure there were a few fish that gorged on them.

Due to the lake turnover; I believe the released water is more oxygen rich and I am seeing some excellent midge/bug hatches. Additionally; the fall flora along the banks is attracting some great variety of bugs.