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dalerio
07-05-2010, 02:27 PM
who likes them, who uses them. i have one tied from tying thread and one from mono. i wrapped flouresent red tying thread on the mono one in the middle as a strike indicator. i love them. the tying thread one is alittle hard to get used to but works great. i find it great fishing in the smokies. and tying new tippet on is a breeze.

let the war begin.......LOL just kidding

BlueRaiderFan
07-05-2010, 02:34 PM
That's funny right there. I don't care who ya are! :biggrin:

silvercreek
07-05-2010, 02:51 PM
Just started fishing the twisted mono type leader. I've used them on bass flies and trout flies. They work great. I can't say the twisted mono is all that much better than a tapered mono leader or a braided butt leader, but they are a heck of a lot cheaper. Gives me heartburn to pay $4 bucks for a tapered mono leader. I have not tried a true furled leader so I can't speak there, except it looks like a lot of work. Silvercreek

purple squirrel
07-05-2010, 04:26 PM
I have a furled leader on every rod I have, from a 3wt to a 9wt and some are uni-thread and others are mono..

Chuckwalla
07-05-2010, 06:50 PM
I've been using the same one on a 3wt for 3 years now. I love them. I use the store bought ones from Feather Craft. The little metal ring is sweet.

dalerio
07-05-2010, 08:25 PM
I've been using the same one on a 3wt for 3 years now. I love them. I use the store bought ones from Feather Craft. The little metal ring is sweet.

how well do they float with the ring? i use a silicone paste on mine after i clean them to keep them floating good. i found a page showing how to make a welded loop on your fly line and since then thats all i use.

nvr2L8
07-05-2010, 08:44 PM
dalerio,

So what's next, mono vs. fluorocarbon or bamboo vs. graphite vs. fiberglass? Anyway, I have been using a furled leader (store-bought) for about a year now and I really like it. Saves me a ton of time on the water, not having to splice tippet on my vanishing mono tapered leader. And I've found that it floats the tippet out there much more nicely than the mono tapered leader. Not to mention lasting a really long time and having no coil memory. Takes a little bit of experimentation as to how much tippet to tie on but I'm definitely a furled kind of guy.

Vern
07-05-2010, 09:20 PM
I started using furled leaders a couple of years ago, loved them, but got frustrated with the dealing with the loop on the blue sky, so I changed to mono tapered. Then last fall it dawned one me how to deal with tying tippet to the loop. Now I tie a quick perfection loop in my tippet and use a handshake connection. Easy to remove and change tippet now.

Troutman
07-05-2010, 11:01 PM
I like furled leaders for fishing dry flies and poppers. still use a regular tapered or hand tied leader for streamers and nymphs.

They are 4ft long and when you add tippet to the tiny ring, you get a leader about 7ft.
I use a size #2 for 3-5wt rods and a size #4 for my 7wt. and bass poppers.
Have only seen them sold in one particular fly shop in G-burg. Handmade in Olympia , WA.

dalerio
07-05-2010, 11:21 PM
troutman, they make a flourocarbon tied leader just for streamers. you ever thought about tryin one them out. nvr2L8, hahahaha.........speakin of the other post. i find the furled mono leaders makes the short cast alot easier with my 8ft. rod fishing in the smokies. it turns over like a dream but if you hang a fly and break the tippet off it makes a mess. alittle work and shes ready to go.... Vern, i tie a surgeons loop....

PeteCz
07-05-2010, 11:42 PM
Vern, to add to the comment Dalerio was making...tie a loop on the end of your furled leader and then tie your tippets to the loop (rather than the furled leader). When you get too many left over knots on the loop or you break the loop, you can just tie on an new loop...works like a champ. I have one furled leader on a 3wt line that I've had for 4 years now...

They are especially great when working with beginners...its one less thing to worry about when they get wind knots in their tippets or they keep tying on new flies ... Just tie on some new tippet material...

Chuckwalla
07-06-2010, 11:15 AM
how well do they float with the ring? i use a silicone paste on mine after i clean them to keep them floating good. i found a page showing how to make a welded loop on your fly line and since then thats all i use.

I haven't seen any issues. The ring is on the tippet end. The flyline to leader is a loop.

Crockett
07-06-2010, 12:00 PM
I recently bought a streamside mystic creek furled leader (5.5 ft) and have been trying it out. I thought it was a bit too long and would have liked a 4.5 foot one better. The tippet ring seemed to sink a few inches under after using a while. Also it seemed very light and would constantly get wrapped around the end of my rod while I was doing something like applying dry shake to my fly so I abandoned using it. Where do you guys that buy your furled leaders get them?

Chuckwalla
07-06-2010, 12:19 PM
I Where do you guys that buy your furled leaders get them?


I've been using the Feather Craft 3' for small stream stuff.

Crockett
07-06-2010, 12:38 PM
Thanks John those look good. What tippet length would you tie on to that using a dry on a small stream and do you see the tippet ring sink if you don't treat it?

Chuckwalla
07-06-2010, 01:05 PM
Depending on the size of the stream, I'll use 2 to 3 feet of tippet. As far as the ring sinking, never really noticed. But I'm too busy watching the fly to notice much. :)

pineman19
07-06-2010, 04:28 PM
I have been using Orvis's braided leaders for years now in the mountains. They're are a little expensive, but they last a long time, and cast well at shorter distances. I tried a furled leader, I wasn't real impressed and switched back to braided leaders. I need to try the furled again to make sure I just wasn't having a a bad day on the water;)

Neal

Vern
07-07-2010, 12:32 PM
Pete
I was tying a extra loop, but the extra knot was just one more place the tippet on a dropper would find because I tend to throw a tailing loop. With the perfection loop when I change tippet I clip the loop off above the knot and pick the handshake knot apart. I use UV Knot on my perfection knot to smooth it out. So now I have way less problems with the tailing loop tangling my dropper. Of course I could work harder at solving the tailing loop, but that would require casting in the yard and we don't have any Brookies in my back yard in Nashville. But I have had a few rises from my neighbors cat. But have never got it all the way in hand!
I do have a problem with keeping the furled floating, toward the end of the day I start coating it with paste, do any of you have a better answer?

dalerio
07-07-2010, 12:58 PM
vern,

make sure and wash it good after each fishing trip then treat with paste is what i do.

guys i found a web site video to make your own leaders check it out may try one latter today.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbcVaEe3RIs&feature=player_embedded

PeteCz
07-07-2010, 01:08 PM
I was tying a extra loop, but the extra knot was just one more place the tippet on a dropper would find because I tend to throw a tailing loop....
...Of course I could work harder at solving the tailing loop, but that would require casting in the yard and we don't have any Brookies in my back yard in Nashville. But I have had a few rises from my neighbors cat. But have never got it all the way in hand!


Vern, That's pretty funny...I always get weird looks when I'm outside practicing casting. Usually someone will drive by and ask if I'm catching anything...

I also used to have a problem with a tailing loop, but somehow in the last year year I've lost it...not that I want it back, but I'm not sure what I'm doing differently that has finally removed mine...almost twenty years of flyfishing and I still can't cast worth a hoot...

pineman19
07-07-2010, 04:33 PM
Pete,

If you ever feel the need for a tailing loop, let me know and I'll be glad to swap it out for some those nice flies you tie:biggrin: Let me know you ever need a fishin buddy for a Deep Creek trip, etc. I hope we get some rain to fill the creeks. I fished the Greenbriar Gorge last Friday, had a pretty good day and water levels were good considering the lack of rainfall in the mountains.

Later,

Neal