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knucklehead
07-20-2010, 11:17 PM
what a night. couple of nights ago i got stranded on the wrong side of the river. in between elkmont and metcalf i waded across the stream, fell in, wasn't catching any fish and somehow believed i would later on. my gut instinct at the time was to just leave. i should have. the sky was somewhat cloudy but nothing too serious looking overhead. i worked upstream about half a mile or so and suddenly noticed that the water was latte colored. i chugged back to where i originally crossed, i thought, and couldn't see bottom anywhere. 845 pm and i was a little concerned. luckily, i thought at the time, i parked near a bridge so i'll just climb over a boulder and down to the bridge and back to the jeep. wrong. hill was way too steep and slick (recent drizzle, nothing heavy where i was). so i wiggled back down and realized it was pitch dark. and my flashlight quit working. i had nothing but a camera, a fly vest and a fishing pole. and wet clothes. tried for an hour or so but couldn't get any kind of fire going, even with the lighter i had. i had gathered some sticks before my light died and was able to use them as a semi-blanket. so...6 am rolled around and i could finally see stream bottom. waded across easily and made it to work at 11 that morning. i'm never venturing out so unprepared again. no matter how far i go. i slept less than a 100 feet from my ride. what a night....
anyone else got stranded stories?

GrouseMan77
07-20-2010, 11:23 PM
Your name says it all. :biggrin:

Crockett
07-21-2010, 08:17 AM
Wow I know that must have been frustrating to be stranded so close to "civilization" and the road. Did you actually sleep any and how much traffic goes through on little river road at night just curious lol?

Rog 1
07-21-2010, 09:10 AM
If it doesn't kill you it only makes you stronger...so they say...all my vests/pacs have one of those throw away plastic ponchos in them...along with the lighter you may also want to carry one of those fire starter sticks...Walmart sells them in the camping section...don't weigh hardly anything and work pretty well...

NDuncan
07-21-2010, 09:38 AM
Thanks for sharing this. It's a good tale of caution to anyone fishing around dusk in the summer. It could potentially rain up high every day in the summer with all the humidity, and you may not even know it has rained up high from where you are. And you proved that you don't have to be far from the road to get stranded! Glad you made it through ok.

GrouseMan77
07-21-2010, 01:14 PM
Your name says it all. :biggrin:

After thinking about it... I just wanted to make sure that my post wasn't taken the wrong way by anyone.

I almost always take measures to make sure that any unplanned overnight camping trip will be more tolerable (snack or two, striker, big knife:eek:).

I'll give you (knucklehead) props for making it to work the next day. I would like to think that I would have kept on fishin.

Speckleman5
07-21-2010, 03:54 PM
If I was forced to sleep on the ground 100 feet from my vehicle there is no way in **** that I wouldn't fish the next day. Period. haha

ifish4wildtrout
07-21-2010, 05:09 PM
Glad you made it out okay.

Sometimes I think I carry too much stuff, but it definitely would not be enough if I got stranded. I do always carry my water filter, a little food, and 4-5 lighters.

I always leave my wife a note with explicit details of where I am going with the local authorities phone numbers.

I guess it would be a bit embarrassing to have a search and rescue team rescue me 100 feet from my vehicle. :biggrin:

Trip
07-21-2010, 06:25 PM
I always leave my wife a note with explicit details of where I am going

I do the same with a twist.

Ever since I started riding a motorcycle, I bought a big dry erase board and hung it up in the garage. It's good for stuff I need to remember and letting my wife know where I have disappeared to.

mora521
07-21-2010, 09:44 PM
Classic city slicker story

knucklehead
07-21-2010, 09:45 PM
a surprising amount of traffic. at odd hours as well. man, sleep was at a minimum, i believe. may have dozed off momentarily. no harm in the name checking. i find it very fitting as well..for multiple reasons, 1 of which is i can and do throw a knuckleball in a knox adult bball league. another reason is i don't always use what few brain cells i have left..guess i don't want to over-work them...

I ,too, am glad i made it out. no way in **** i was calling in a rescue. did lose my rod but got it back today...and no one was stranded this time.

Carlito
07-22-2010, 04:43 PM
They always say that those kinda situations creep up on you... nobody expects to get stranded, otherwise you'd just head on out before dusk. Thanks for the reminder about being prepared. I've slacked on remembering my Sure Fire flashlight the last few fishing trips, and a good light will go a long way in that kinda situation.

Regarding getting a fire started, I always leave a couple of these Esbit liquid fuel blocks (http://www.esbit.de/index.php?id=105) in my pack, along w/ a lighter, some dryer lint in a ziploc baggy, and a fire striker just in case the lighter gets wet. They light easily with a lighter/small flame off some dryer lint, and they'll burn even if they get wet. Flame usually lasts about 10 minutes, which is plenty of time to get a flame going. We got caught in some VERY soggy weather up on Gregory Bald one weekend while backpacking, and the Esbit tabs were the difference between getting a fire going and sitting around in the dark. You can get them at Blue Ridge for about $10.

Anywho, glad everything worked out in the end!

NDuncan
07-22-2010, 05:33 PM
One thing that works really well, and keeps dryer lint more water resistant is to stuff it into the pockets on a cardboard egg carton and then pour plain parafin wax over it. These homemade fire starters burn longer than just lint alone and are really easy to make.

GrouseMan77
07-22-2010, 06:18 PM
I carry dryer lint, in toilet paper tubes, with vaseline smeared on the inside. Keep a couple in every pack.

Oldman
07-22-2010, 06:32 PM
The best thing anyone can carry while fishing or doing anything in the woods,backcountry or wherever, is some common sense. Spending the night on the far side of the stream aint near as bad as try ing to swim across and not making it.

Carlito
07-22-2010, 11:21 PM
The best thing anyone can carry while fishing or doing anything in the woods,backcountry or wherever, is some common sense. Spending the night on the far side of the stream aint near as bad as try ing to swim across and not making it.

True that!

duckypaddler
07-23-2010, 11:30 AM
The best thing anyone can carry while fishing or doing anything in the woods,backcountry or wherever, is some common sense. Spending the night on the far side of the stream aint near as bad as try ing to swim across and not making it.

Although the river only peaked at 2.2 that night, which should be easy enough to cross back in many places (still a below minimum level for a kayak), although you might get a bit wet. We all know hind sight is 20/20, and I bet he'll pay more attention to specific places to cross so that if the water muddies up next time he will still be able to cross without too much danger. While I always carry an emergency pack when I go backcountry (most of my fishing), but never considered taking it roadside. While this experience does teach me just as many things can happen roadside as in the backcountry, I'm still pretty sure I would have swam back and stashed the rod if need be. Wet and home sure beats sleeping with camping gear:biggrin:. Even in the winter you should be able to get back to your car before hypothermia sets in. Just my 2 cents from a hindsight position. Although like my fishing buddy says, "Live to fish another day"

knucklehead
07-23-2010, 11:18 PM
a river at night is totally different than during the day. at least to my eyes. the spot where i eventually crossed the next day, i probably could've crossed that night but i just couldn't see well enough and i didn't want to risk it. next time i'll just bring a bull whip and do my best indiana jones imitation. darn good replies.

BlueRaiderFan
07-24-2010, 12:08 AM
Never done that one, but I have been caught on the wrong side of the river during a rain and waded back just in time for the river to be almost unwadable. It doesn't take much to really get that sucker rollin.

duckypaddler
07-24-2010, 12:33 AM
It doesn't take much to really get that sucker rollin.

In the Winter a good half inch can do it. In the Summer i would look for an inch to an inch and a half of rain to get her rolling. 4 gallons per tree per day makes alot of difference

FishNHunt
07-26-2010, 04:04 AM
Take a pill bottle and put cotton balls in it. Then put vaseline ontop of that. Add a medium size garbage bag and 2 lighters to a vaccum sealed bag. It takes up nearly zero space but, will save your life. My friend and I were hunting last year in the rain and I mean it poured. It was just warm enough to not really snow. I took out my fire starter kit and told my buddy to start breaking tiny twigs from under a standing fir tree. He laughed and said "your no boyscout". I all most didn't get the lighter lit because my hands were so wet. But, In no time flat we were feeding a roaring fire and I told my buddy I needed my merit badge. I was in your shoes once and couldn't get a fire started so I picked up this little tip and it's kept me warm many different times. You could have tried crossing in the dark and maybe even made it. But, why risk your life over one good nights sleep. You done the right thing.

ZachMatthews
08-12-2010, 09:31 PM
I am not being tongue in cheek here; I am really serious. Was swimming not an option? I don't know the conditions you were facing, but for me the thing to do would have been to go upriver or downriver until I found a slow pool, and then swim across. Even if the river was up somewhat I think it would be crossable, but of course not everyone swims so well, etc. I just had to ask.

That said, I have been stranded myself on the Clinch (water came on, I thought it was a one hour pulse and stayed on the island... about two hours later, despite my vehement yelling that I did not need a rescue and would wait it out, here comes the county's boat and a very amused officer). Of course the Clinch is much bigger water and with the strainer of the weir dam right there, I didn't want to risk a swim.

I swim a lot while angling in summer so maybe I'm just used to it?

Zach

Rebelsoul
09-01-2010, 01:41 PM
Old habits are hard to break,everytime I go out in the woods or fishing I carry survival gear,something to get a fire going,a compass,a map,a surefire light and something to eat to get some calories and a way to filter water.
As firestarting goes,it's hard to beat flint and steel and charcloth,it's been a proven method for hundreds of years....takes a little practice though.
The only drwaback to this is you have to carry the stuff,but it's not heavy and worth it's weight in gold in an emergency.
Glad you used good sense,crossing swift water at night is risky,no matter what anyone says.

MadisonBoats
09-01-2010, 08:21 PM
what a night. couple of nights ago i got stranded on the wrong side of the river. in between elkmont and metcalf i waded across the stream, fell in, wasn't catching any fish and somehow believed i would later on. my gut instinct at the time was to just leave. i should have. the sky was somewhat cloudy but nothing too serious looking overhead. i worked upstream about half a mile or so and suddenly noticed that the water was latte colored. i chugged back to where i originally crossed, i thought, and couldn't see bottom anywhere. 845 pm and i was a little concerned. luckily, i thought at the time, i parked near a bridge so i'll just climb over a boulder and down to the bridge and back to the jeep. wrong. hill was way too steep and slick (recent drizzle, nothing heavy where i was). so i wiggled back down and realized it was pitch dark. and my flashlight quit working. i had nothing but a camera, a fly vest and a fishing pole. and wet clothes. tried for an hour or so but couldn't get any kind of fire going, even with the lighter i had. i had gathered some sticks before my light died and was able to use them as a semi-blanket. so...6 am rolled around and i could finally see stream bottom. waded across easily and made it to work at 11 that morning. i'm never venturing out so unprepared again. no matter how far i go. i slept less than a 100 feet from my ride. what a night....
anyone else got stranded stories?

Man, I hate that you had to endure that...But, some times things like that help you appreciate the smaller things in life. I have been there many times; all that goes through your head is dry clothes, warm bed, and food.:biggrin: Glad you made it out ok and I am sure work was a fun day.

MadisonBoats
09-01-2010, 08:25 PM
I do the same with a twist.

Ever since I started riding a motorcycle, I bought a big dry erase board and hung it up in the garage. It's good for stuff I need to remember and letting my wife know where I have disappeared to.

Good Tip to share!

sammcdonald
09-03-2010, 02:54 PM
on the north side of the river, past long arm bridge, there are 2 manways which lead to metcalf bottoms....one will take you past the sally moore cemetery....the other is more windy and takes ya up and down and joins the sally moore trail up little brier creek
just a tidbit for wanderers
sam