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Dawgvet
09-18-2010, 12:59 PM
I fish the ubiquitous Parachute Adams alot and just wondering what everyone's favorite wing post material was. My major concern is visibility in our dark, overgrown mountain streams. I have been using calf body hair dyed yellow recently with good success. I find that I can pick it out of the glare and foam better than white calf body hair. I've tried Z-lon but found it too be less visible. Also used calf tail but it was harder to stack neatly. What do you all use?
Thanks
Jedidiah

tennswede
09-18-2010, 03:03 PM
polypropylene jarn I think that's the proper name. I need to try a different color than white though, based on your statement.

silvercreek
09-18-2010, 07:24 PM
I use a variety of materials depending on the style of the fly, but I would suggest you try turkey flats for smaller parachute flies. It ties in without much bulk. Silvercreek

DarrinG
09-18-2010, 07:38 PM
Flo. Orange poly yarn for my posts on parachute flies.
I've tried yellow, white and hot pink and for my eyesight, I can pick out the Flo. Orange color better than the rest. Plus, poly yarn is easy to work with and floats like a cork.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v631/DarrinG/Fly%20Tying%20Stuff/ParaAdams025.jpg

MadisonBoats
09-18-2010, 08:26 PM
Flo. Orange poly yarn for my posts on parachute flies.
I've tried yellow, white and hot pink and for my eyesight, I can pick out the Flo. Orange color better than the rest. Plus, poly yarn is easy to work with and floats like a cork.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v631/DarrinG/Fly%20Tying%20Stuff/ParaAdams025.jpg
That is the way to go if you are worried about visibility. It works great and has a variety of colors. You can cut V-shaped patterns along the shank to create realistic wings if you want...I think this set-up works just fine and I apply Frog Powder every so often for proper presentation - KEY;)

DarrinG
09-18-2010, 10:15 PM
Fumed Silica works, but before a parachute fly ever touches water, a dab of Gink rubbed into the post and hackle and I never have to worry about any further floating problems all day. The poly yarn in itself floats well, but a little silicone (Gink or similar) rubbed into it makes it super-bouyant, even in heavy plunge pools, etc. I like fumed silica (aka: Frogs Fanny) for flies with CDC but hate the stuff for hackled dry flies. I always get a nose full of that stuff and my hands dry out and start cracking...:biggrin:

MadisonBoats
09-19-2010, 09:12 PM
Fumed Silica works, but before a parachute fly ever touches water, a dab of Gink rubbed into the post and hackle and I never have to worry about any further floating problems all day. The poly yarn in itself floats well, but a little silicone (Gink or similar) rubbed into it makes it super-bouyant, even in heavy plunge pools, etc. I like fumed silica (aka: Frogs Fanny) for flies with CDC but hate the stuff for hackled dry flies. I always get a nose full of that stuff and my hands dry out and start cracking...:biggrin:

I use Gink floatant to start and add Frogs Fanny continually when the fly is not presenting correctly...Works great for me and I know my friend Mihai on this board would agree. He is the one that showed it to me.

flyman
09-19-2010, 10:19 PM
I use yarn and foam cylinders more than anything else. I still use calf tail for some patterns, but not many. Foam and yarn are just too easy to work with. Poly makes good post, but there a couple newer products that I think might be a little bit better. HI VIS and Para Post are both water proof and easy to see, and come in a wide range of colors. The HI VIS has some sparkle to it that really makes it easy to see. Darrin is right about using some other colors. Sometimes white is fine, other times yellow or even black is easier to see.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y166/flyman1/fishing%20and%20misc%20flies/Klinkhamer2.jpg

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i16/nepal_flyfishing_guru/e45dd9d4.jpg

This is a Light Cahill pattern with a foam post I did for the LRO Journal. If you don't subscribe you won't be able to see it, or you can go to the archives page and sign up for the email letter and then you will be able to see it, I think. Wish I still had the original photos, but they went to cyberspace along with about 500 others when a stray bullet hit my computer:eek:

http://littleriveroutfitters.com/littleriverjournal/storiesjune09/juneissue/index.htm

MadisonBoats
09-19-2010, 10:53 PM
I use yarn and foam cylinders more than anything else. I still use calf tail for some patterns, but not many. Foam and yarn are just too easy to work with. Poly makes good post, but there a couple newer products that I think might be a little bit better. HI VIS and Para Post are both water proof and easy to see, and come in a wide range of colors. The HI VIS has some sparkle to it that really makes it easy to see. Darrin is right about using some other colors. Sometimes white is fine, other times yellow or even black is easier to see.
This is a Light Cahill pattern with a foam post I did for the LRO Journal. If you don't subscribe you won't be able to see it, or you can go to the archives page and sign up for the email letter and then you will be able to see it, I think. Wish I still had the original photos, but they went to cyberspace along with about 500 others when a stray bullet hit my computer:eek:

http://littleriveroutfitters.com/littleriverjournal/storiesjune09/juneissue/index.htm

Excellent looking flies and thanks for sharing bud!:smile:

kentuckytroutbum
09-20-2010, 12:19 PM
I like the poly yarn in bright colors, or calf tail as a post. The color white seems to get lost in the sunlight reflecting off of the water. I've tried the foam, and found it was difficult for me to tie in the foam. The foam post required a lot of thread to get to stay upright, and it also made the thorax area very thick, and out of proportion with the fly.

Bill

NDuncan
09-21-2010, 09:33 AM
Ok well, I'll throw mine in since no one else likely uses the same material I do. I started tying a few months ago (june or July, don't remember exactly when) and since I mostly had been fishing parachute adams and the like, that's what I wanted to tie. My father-in-law had a basic fly tying kit that had been gathering dust for 15 years and I borrowed that to practice with. It had mist of the essentials, but nothing for tying parachutes. Since I wanted to practice with this whole tying thing before buying a bunch of materials, I had improvise on the post material. It didn't take too long before I decided to use a source which was constantly giving me an abundance of material:

http://i967.photobucket.com/albums/ae158/Nathan_Duncan/Flies/DSCF2844-2.jpg

He's kinda dirty in this picture, but after a bath he is white white. Anyway, for anyone not familiar with German Shepherds, they have two coats, a top coat (which has long hair) and an undercoat (which is much shorter). A couple of times a year he molts his undercoat and it comes out in tufts of hair about 1-2" long. These dense tufts work great for parachute posts, especially since they are free and the piles of fur I have to sweep up from him shedding several times a week attest to the fact that there is no shortage of material. The hairs only really line up when the come directly off of his coat, so I usually just give him a bath, dry him, and the collect a bunch of tufts that are shedding and then brush him down. He doesn't seem to mind too much...

Here is a selection of some flies, some better than others, but pretty decent for a novice, I suppose, since they catch skiddish smokies wild trout:
http://i967.photobucket.com/albums/ae158/Nathan_Duncan/Flies/DSCF3399.jpg

kentuckytroutbum
09-21-2010, 09:49 AM
Nduncan-

Glad that you have gone "green" and are recycling your dog! ;) Dog hair makes all of the sense in the world.

I've got a Persian cat that sheds all of the time. I think I'm going to start collecting his hair and try it out for a parachute post. I assume that cat hair is hollow and will float for a reasonable amount of time. Anybody know for sure?

Your flies look good, even for a "novice" as you said. Keep working at it, and it will really start to come together. I'm learning all of the time, from this Forum, some friends in TU, and my local fly shop where we tie flies on Saturday mornings.

Bill

flyman
09-21-2010, 09:02 PM
Cat hair makes very good dubbing:smile:

kentuckytroutbum
09-21-2010, 09:15 PM
flyman-

Thanks for the imput, guess my cat is going to be bald soon. ;)

Bill

psnapp
09-21-2010, 10:03 PM
NDuncan -- mighty fine looking flies, novice or otherwise. I still use the high-vis poly post material mostly in chartreuse. One of the few colors my eyes can pick up in the foam lines.

Milton
10-08-2010, 03:31 PM
Flyman mentioned black posts, and I want to second that. On an overcast day, nothing stands out better.

-Milton