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Mac
10-13-2010, 05:47 PM
My brother and I just got home from a 6 day 5 night backcountry fly fishing trip and I wanted to post a few pictures from our trip I hope you enjoy.

We started our trip on Thursday October 7th and returned home on October 12th. The weather was absolutely perfect during the days but the nights seemed a little cool for the high altitudes.

The water was a little low and very clear but the fishing was still excellent as long as you stayed low and out of site. We never saw another fisherman the entire time we fished. We both used number 16 simulators in both yellow and orange the entire time. Never even needed to try anything else.


http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn45/mactrout/2010%20Oct/Picture013.jpg

Here is the first location that my brother talked me into putting my hammock. I will have to admit that it looked like a really neat setup but being that close to the water and high up on a point it was really COLD that first night.

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn45/mactrout/2010%20Oct/Picture026.jpg

Here is a picture of my brother fishing as we started our trip upstream. Notice his new Flyvest. :rolleyes:

During our upstream trip this day a bear came out of the woods and started to cross the stream in front of use. The bear stood on his back legs to get a good look before he bolted across the stream and into the woods on the other side. There never was any worries about the bear because my brother was at least 15 to 20 yards closer to the bear then me.

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn45/mactrout/2010%20Oct/Picture024.jpg

This is not a really great picture but it is a good example of how fat the fish are in this area. My brother caught this rainbow.

At about the same time this day we were sitting on the bank of the creek and watch a Bob cat patroling the opposite side of the bank and never even knew we were there.

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn45/mactrout/2010%20Oct/Picture057.jpg

Here is a picture of an example of one of the locals. This trip we caught some of the largest Specs we have ever caught in the park.

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn45/mactrout/2010%20Oct/Picture129.jpg

Here is a good example of how all the leaves were changing. It was absolutely beauitful colors this time of year.

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn45/mactrout/2010%20Oct/Picture077.jpg

Here is a picture where we finally reached the end of the stream where it splits. I am not sure if i could make it this far upstream again, it almost killed us getting there.

Hope you enjoy the report and pictures and thanks for letting use share as small part of an incredible trip.

ifish4wildtrout
10-13-2010, 06:20 PM
Looks like an awesome trip, I am envious. If you were where I think you were, that is a trip I hope to make one day.

Great report.

iamcolby
10-14-2010, 06:49 AM
The fishing, the blooming of the leaves, the bobcat & bear, it was all magical. The most entertaining part was seeing my brothers hammock in a different location when I woke up from a warm and cozy sleep. Putting his hammock on top a rock in the breeze was a bit brave in my opinion.

benintenn
10-14-2010, 07:54 AM
If its the same three hemlocks as in my picture, then it was pretty brave...not exactly a gentle grade down to the water.

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm283/benschulz001/IMG_2942.jpg

Crockett
10-14-2010, 10:13 AM
Awesome report looks like you guys had a blast. Don't know if you all noticed while you were there but those three hemlocks have blue paint spots at the bottom where they have been treated by the park. That is a great looking speck too!

JayB
10-14-2010, 10:21 AM
Great Trip! I've been itching to do a long trip like that for a while.

Chuckwalla
10-14-2010, 12:56 PM
Sweet! Looks (and sounds) like an awesome trip!

MBB
10-14-2010, 06:04 PM
Great report. Did the fishing improve significantly the further you headed upstream?

ifish4wildtrout
10-14-2010, 06:08 PM
I am also curious how the fishing was at the infamous "end" of the stream.

benintenn
10-14-2010, 07:31 PM
I was curious at to how long it took to get from the campsite to the pool and if you all returned the same way or went up to 44. It seems like that's quite a haul.

Crockett
10-14-2010, 07:44 PM
the secrets out hehe

ifish4wildtrout
10-14-2010, 08:06 PM
the secrets out hehe

That's okay, though. Those that know from the pics and/or description already know about the place. :biggrin:

One day, I will make it there. I need to shed a few pounds before I go.

Jim Casada
10-14-2010, 08:17 PM
ifish4wildtrout (and others)--There's no easy way to get to the big pool from campsite 47 (or any other way, for that matter). It's a long, long slog up the creek from 47. As for fishing at the end of the stream, it doesn't end at the big pool, although I doubt if the feeders creating the pool see 10 fishermen a year. I don't worry about specifics because I know, beyond any doubt, that only the truly hale and hearty are going to get more than a mile or so upstream of Enloe Creek, and only the unwise and foolhardy are going to get comparable distances downstream. It's the most rugged water and area in the Park, one which I will never, at my age, see again. For all of you in your 20s, 30s, and 40s, get exceptionally fit and then maybe you are ready to give it a go. I do have questions in connection with the original post (which is a dandy). How did you manage to stay in the same campsite that long, and if you didn't, did you get the special permission which enables you to camp in undesignated sites? That would be a true adventure of the kind I enjoyed the better part of 50 years ago for a magical 10 days on Deep Creek's Left Fork.
Jim Casada
www.jimcasadaoutdoors.com (http://www.jimcasadaoutdoors.com)

benintenn
10-15-2010, 08:28 PM
Cross country camping permits are available but I imagine they are hard to get and I don't think that area would qualify for the criteria from the park compendium. I could be wrong though.

Crosscountry camping
Camping in the backcountry is permitted only at
established backcountry sites, except as authorized by a
cross-country permit. Cross-country permits may not be
self-issued and must be approved by a Resource and Visitor
Protection Division employee. Cross-country camping (at
other than designated sites) is permitted under the
following conditions:
The maximum party size is four persons. The
use of horses or other stock is prohibited.
The campsite must be at least one-half mile
from any designated trail, one mile from any
designated road and 100 feet from the nearest
surface water.
Camping in spruce-fir, beech gaps or on
grassy or heath balds is prohibited.
The duration of stay at each location cannot
exceed one night and the same location cannot
be used a second time on the same trip.
Wood fires are prohibited.
Campers are required to obliterate all traces of
human presence upon leaving a cross-country
camp.
Camping locations for each night should be as
closely pinpointed as possible using natural
landmarks or map coordinates and so noted on
the permit. Trips are expected to follow the
designated itinerary as closely as possible.
Cross-country hiking is a special use and requires
special equipment, training and/or experience. These
regulations are an attempt to permit this special use,
while minimizing the potential impact on natural
resources.

duckypaddler
10-16-2010, 09:45 AM
BeninTenn - As long as you get 100 feet from the water. If you have hammocks it should be no big deal. Although in a place like that the safety (maybe just perceived in my head) of a fire at night would be missed.

If I'm not mistaken I think Jim's brother Don recently did a similar trip. And I'm sure he would have gotten a permit.

As for ir being the most remote and rugged place, it is, but is just a pale comparison to what lies below 47.:biggrin:


Another great feature of the trifluence is that it is part of the creation myth of the Cherokee people. It's where the Raven crashed into the earth, and I forget the details from there. Regardless of how you wrap it up, or describe this place, words only go so far. When you are there if you open up your senses and take in all you can, you will be filled with awe and wonder and feel fully alive:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:

Jim Casada
10-16-2010, 12:21 PM
duckypaddler--I agree that obtaining a permit should not pose a problem, because Park authorities would be hard pressed to deny one if the person asking for it could show they had adequate equipment. I also concur that the area downstream is far, far more rugged than that above Enloe Creek. You had better bet extremely fit to venture into the gorge on Raven Fork and maybe more than a little crazy. Certainly it is not a place to go alone.

Don, my brother, did venture into the area back in the summer, but it was a one-day trip--he doesn't give much of a second thought to 20-25 miles in a day. In the end he didn't actually go all the way down to Three Forks (he was bushwhacking the the Breakneck Ridge region). He decided the briars were just too thick and that he would wait until after a good, killing forst. You should have seen photos of his legs after the adventure. He looked like he had been on a seven-day rabbit hunt wearing shorts:eek:

Jim Casada
www.jimcasadaoutdoors.com (http://www.jimcasadaoutdoors.com)

Mac
10-16-2010, 09:50 PM
After reading everyones response i felt that I should make sure no one has any false illusions.

For this trip my brother and I went to the gym 6 days a week EVERY week for three months straight. We are getting a little older but this trip really did put a hurting on use. Younger and better shape individuals should fare better.

Like Jims brother we both came home with all kinds of red, white, and blue bruises. ;)

and to get some of these:

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn45/mactrout/2010%20Oct/Picture063.jpg

I brought home a 5 inch one of these;

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn45/mactrout/2010%20Oct/Picture165.jpg

Just would not want anyone to get hurt. I sure would not do this trip without someone I really trusted could get me out if things got bad.

Jim Casada
10-17-2010, 09:28 AM
Mac--Very sound advice, and I notice that the price paid for hooking the ultimate in piscatorial beauty took place on an area of sparse grey hackle. I envy you the trip and can only reiterate what I've said before; this is one of those places those of you who are somewhat younger than this grizzled veteran of Smokies' trout wars need to put on your "must go there" agenda. But Mac's advice on fitness and preparation is spot on.
Jim Casada
www.jimcasadaoutdoors.com (http://www.jimcasadaoutdoors.com)

lexfly
10-20-2010, 04:22 PM
Mac, I enjoyed reading about your trip and it has been on my Smokies bucket list for a while. I was on Hazel Creek while you were on your trip. I noticed you are from Lexington too. If you have the time and inclination I would like to ask you about it in more detail. If so, you could shoot me an email at tyereece@insightbb.com

Carlito
10-22-2010, 01:25 PM
Very cool! Thanks for sharing. Pick up an undercover for that hammock and it'll sleep a lot warmer =)

Owl
10-22-2010, 02:42 PM
Great report and pics! Thanks!!!! Love the brookie in spawning dress.