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Speck Lover
01-14-2011, 09:21 PM
There is a Proposed Regulation Amendment by the Virginia Department of Game and Inland Fisheries Board that is seeking to raise the cost of nonresident fishing license as follows:


Nonresident Freshwater License: From $36.00 to $85.00

Nonresident Designated Trout Waters License: From $36.00 to $85.00

Nonresident Freshwater 5 Day License: From $16.00 to $65.00

Nonresident Freshwater & Saltwater License: From $60.50 to $110.00

Nonresident Freshwater & Saltwater 5 Day License: From $26.00 to $75.00


I really don't have a problem with a reasonable increase, but this is absolutely absurd! As a matter of fact, the proposed fee increases are the maximum allowable under the Board's authority. Listed below is the link for the Proposed Regulation Amendment:


http://www.dgif.virginia.gov/regulations/comment-funding/expand.asp?VAC=020-065



At the bottom of the page is a link to comment on this proposed regulation amendment. If you feel like I do about this outrageous proposal, please let the Virginia Department of Game and Inland Fisheries Board know how you feel. Final action on this issue will be taken in the first half of 2011, after a public comment period of greater than usual length.

kentuckytroutbum
01-15-2011, 09:30 AM
speck-

That is ridiculous for the price increase. My wife & I fished for 5 days in October for trout, and I thought the NR license fees was reasonable, though a little high compared to TN. and other states for 5 day licenses.

Unfortunately, VGIF is setting themselves up for failure, in that NR's will not go to VA to fish, instead going to TN, NC or elsewhere. How is VGIF actually justifying this increase?

For $80 +/-, I have a annual TN NR license with trout. I'll be going to TN, thank you very much Virginia!

Bill

Speck Lover
01-15-2011, 11:45 AM
kentuckytroutbum,


This is what kills me about the proposed Virginia increase:


Alaska Nonresident 7 Day License: $55.00
Alaska Nonresident Annual License: $145.00

California Nonresident 10 Day License: $43.46
California Nonresident Annual License: $116.90

Idaho Nonresident Daily License-1st Day: $12.75
Idaho Nonresident Daily License-Each Consecutive Day: $6.00
Idaho Nonresident Annual License: $98.25

Montana Nonresident Conservation License: $10.00
Montana Nonresident 10 Day License: $43.50
Montana Annual License: $60.00

North Carolina Nonresident 10 Day License: $10.00
North Carolina Nonresident Annual License: $30.00
North Carolina Nonresident Trout Stamp: $10.00

Oregon Nonresident 7 Day License: $59.75
Oregon Nonresident Annual License: $106.25

Tennessee Nonresident 10 Day License: $50.50
Tennessee Nonresident Annual License: $81.00

Washington Nonresident Annual License: $48.00

West Virginia Nonresident Trout Stamp: $16.00
West Virginia Nonresident Conservation Stamp: $13.00
West Virginia Nonresident Annual License: $37.00

Wyoming Nonresident Daily License: $14.00
Wyoming Nonresident Annual License: $92.00

kentuckytroutbum
01-15-2011, 05:02 PM
speck-

We both see how insane VA's proposed increase really is! My wife & I have always bought annual licenses for KY, & TN, so that we could chase trout on a short notice and not worry about 3 day or 5 day licenses expiring on us.

If this amendment goes through, we won't be fishing in VA for two reasons: the price, and I won't let VA sock it to us as a matter of principle.

Thanks for posting the various states. That compilation you have should be sent to VA to show them that they are way out of line on their proposed fees. Even Montana & Idaho have reasonable fees, and those two states pride themselves on their trout waters and that it attracts a lot of NR fishers.

Bill

Speck Lover
01-15-2011, 06:01 PM
That compilation you have should be sent to VA to show them that they are way out of line on their proposed fees.

Done! :smile: My wish is that Virginia's comment page on the proposal is inundated with protest from nonresident anglers like you and I, and hopefully many others. Another aspect of this deal that bothers me is the "monkey see, monkey do" effect that this dang proposal may have on other states if it's enacted.

WVBrookie
01-15-2011, 06:48 PM
As another who purchases an annual or 5-day NR license every year, I am as upset as any. I asked my friends in Virginia TU to pass along my concerns to the VA DGIF and this was the reply I received:

"We’re all under the same gun. DGIF has cut the number of regions from five to four, is looking at personnel cuts, funding for out-of-state travel is non-existent (We paid for Larry Mohn’s Rosgen training), enforcement is facing huge staffing issues….you know the routine. If we who benefit from the resource don’t fund its protection , who will?"

If you still decide not to purchase your VA NR license, consider this: I have fished brookie waters up and down the VA/WV border (including Shenandoah National Park) and I will say WV brookie fishing is MUCH better...purchase a WV NR license. :biggrin:

Chris

flyman
01-15-2011, 09:25 PM
If it goes through, I may have to pass on a VA licenses this year. I've been fishing there less and less over the last 10 years or so anyway.

olesmoke
01-15-2011, 10:16 PM
hey flyman sounds like I'm going to get more and more water to fish since everyone is staying home.Doesn't matter to me what it cost--don't like it but it beats mud and the blood and the bullets.:biggrin::biggrin:

Oldman
01-16-2011, 05:50 PM
Thanks for the link. I let the VDGIF know what I thought about thier proposed fee increase. I just hope they listen.

DBKSTONE2
01-17-2011, 08:24 PM
I know saltwater is way off target for this but Florida's non-resident annual saltwater license is ridiculous!!! :mad: Its the **** ocean!!! Any program expenses should be covered under commercial fishing fees and leave the residential/individuals fisherman alone. I have a problem with regulating a body of water that you don't own both sides of the bank.

Again, ITS THE OCEAN!!!

DBK

JohnH0802
01-18-2011, 12:59 PM
I submitted the following comment:

"During the current economic conditions it is understandable to try to increase fees to correct budget shortfalls. This is a natural reaction to these trying times. This reaction will however, give you the complete opposite effect that you are looking for. Instead of increasing revenue to balance shortfalls, the effect of this proposal will be to curtail the number of sportsman that will participate in these activities in your state. Your license sales numbers will decline to the point where it not only do you not see any increase, but will more than likely see a net decrease in cash flow.
As a lifelong hunter and fisherman I have always supported wildlife by purchasing licenses and permits. I have been hunting and fishing for over 35 years. I am currently a SC resident (I was active duty USMC for over 13 years, and settled in SC when I got out). Each year I purchase all of my resident licesnes, and in addition I purchase a NC non-resident fishing licesnse and often a GA non-resident fishing license as well. It is not every year that I get to fish in NC or GA, but I normally by the license anyway. The reason that I purchase thes non-resident licenses is that the non-resident fee is reasonable, and I like to support those programs even if I do not have the opportunity to fish there during that year. If there fees were to increase to the outrageous levels that your proposal suggests, I would no longer do that, and take my business elsewhere. This does not include just my license fees, but all of the ancilliary business that fishing brings as well to include tackle purchases, guides at times, and meals and lodging.
It is really time to have the rest of the community that enjoys our resources participate in the funding. What I mean is all of the people that do not hunt or fish, but utilitze these same areas to hike, bike, sight-see, etc. Sportsman have long carried the burden, it is time to share that load over all of the people that utilize and enjoy the resources. This can raise your revenue without alienating your biggest contributor.
Sincerely,
John"

Grumpy
01-21-2011, 08:36 AM
It does seem high, then again, try going to the movies 5 times & see what that cost you for 2 hours each time, or a mid priced restaurant for lunch for an hour or so, i think i'd get more out of the license increase:eek:

Grumpy