View Full Version : New Guy, will there be "Hazing" involved?

02-10-2011, 07:02 PM
First off, I do want to introduce myself. I'm the guy that drives 441 at 20 mph in the car with Florida tags. Ha! We Floridians get complacent with flat ground and these things next to the road called "shoulders.". Tallahassee is my home and back in Nov., the great guys at LRO steered me towards this forum. I've been lurking on here for a few months I'd like to comment on how helpful everyone is towards newcomers and each other. See, my fly-fishing learning curve has been played in reverse. I first learned to chuck-a-loop at bonefish down in The Bahamas and in other areas of the Caribbean during 6 Springs and Summers of working on cruise ships. Once I settled back in Tally to finish school, I got hooked on the redfish and tarpon fishery in this area (hint: Location X). I've hiked the Smokies for the better part of my life, but never really tried to catch a trout. So here I am, trying to figure out how to catch trout (freshwater). I'm actually fishing Kephart Prong in late March, sooo any suggestions are appreciated!! If anyone ever needs a hand with fishing this area, filling their boat with beer, and poling them around a little.....let me know! Thanks again for having such a great forum.

02-10-2011, 10:38 PM
Welcome aboard! In addition to fishing, it's a great way to keep up with on going news and current issues. I considerate it time well spent. Enjoy!


old east tn boy
02-11-2011, 09:58 AM
Love your idea of fun, poling around in a boat looking for fish and drinking beer. Just don't forget the sun screen!

Welcome aboard, pun intended. You're gonna like this place; it's a fun read.

02-11-2011, 11:43 AM
Welcome to the forum! The only hazing occurs in the mountains in the early morning. When the haze disappears, we go fishing.

Jim Casada
02-11-2011, 12:56 PM
ReelLaxed--A hearty welcome, and I'll offer three immediate tidbits of advice: (1) If you actually drive 20 MPH on Hwy. 441 in the Park pull off when folks start riding your bumper--being overly poky is a pet peeve with locals, one which doubles down when you have a Florida license plate. First thing you know they will be calling you a Floridiot. (2) You won't need those tight loops and long casts you are used to using for bonefish. Just 20-30 foot casts with pinpoint accuracy will fit the bill most of the time. (3) Kephart Prong has plenty of trout but I don't think it is an ideal starter stream. Maybe try nearby Straight Fork or Bradley Fork instead.
Glad to have you on board.
Jim Casada
www.jimcasadaoutdoors.com (http://www.jimcasadaoutdoors.com)

David Knapp
02-11-2011, 01:18 PM
I'll second what Jim was saying...Kephart can be tough to fish...especially early in the year when the water is still cold. If it has been warm then it should fish well...focus on lower elevation streams for better hatches and larger fish... Out of curiousity, are you backpacking on Kephart? If so, then I guess you are kinda tied in to fishing it...make sure to have a good selection of nymphs and probably some Parachute Adams (#12-#14). On streams that size you will rarely want more than 3-4 feet of line out plus your leader. Good luck on the trip and I will look forward to hearing a report!

02-11-2011, 03:23 PM
My father blew his knee out years ago, that's why we haven't been back up here in years. He's wanting another go at it, and the most leisurely short trip we could find was the Newfound to Icewater to Kephart 3day/2night trip....so yeah, I'm tied to it. What size Nymphs? How far should they be tied down from the dry? What kind of Nymph, and heck, would a woolly bugger work? They work on tarpon, redfish, bass, bluegill, bonefish, gator trout. 5x? 3wt-7'10"? Thanks again.
And Jim, to be honest, after 6 years of bonefishing, I never had a cast farther than 50 feet and never had a fish take out more than 70 yards of backing. First bonefish I ever caught, the leader knot wasn't even past the rod tip. There is a huge difference between fish that have seen every fly known to man and virgin bonefish. :biggrin:

David Knapp
02-11-2011, 06:32 PM
The fish up Kephart shouldn't be too educated so just try some basic nymphs in #12-#16 should be fine for the most part. I normally stick with #12 Tellico nymphs (beadhead can help if you are dropping it behind a dry), #12-#14 Pheasant Tail nymphs (beadheads are great here as well...), and maybe some #14 Copper Johns. If you are fishing them behind a dry as a dry/dropper combo, then just drop the nymph 20 inches or so behind the dry and hang on...

02-11-2011, 08:22 PM
There is a Park Regulation on how short or long the dropper can be. I wanna say no shorter than 12" or something like that. I really never pay that much attention to that and I dont think the Rangers do either.