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Rainbow Warrior
02-17-2011, 07:52 PM
I tried making up some articulated streamers for some largemouth, spotted, and some white bass (spawn in a river 5 minutes from my house. :biggrin:) The fish in this river seam to really like white patters, (especially the white bass) with olive coming in at a close second. All this fly is, is 2 hooks, some white marabou wrapped around both hook shanks, some white thread, a few dumbell eyes, and some 20 lb. line to connect the two. They are MUCH easier to make than I thought they would be. I will definately try them in the trout stream too. Tell me what ya think....
http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx294/troutFREAK134/DSCF2440.jpg

olesmoke
02-17-2011, 10:18 PM
nice work......Ive been trying the articulated streamers--stoneflies & hegi patterns this year.Fish seem to like the action.Olive is a real good color for the brownies.Be safe

flyman
02-18-2011, 01:01 AM
What hooks are you using front and back? Are you having any trouble with the back piece fouling with the front piece?

Rainbow Warrior
02-18-2011, 07:31 AM
Flyman, The hooks are #8. I think they are a little on the small side for this fly. I haven't had any problems with the back part fouling the front.

Olesmoke, I will try some olive. I like the action too. I fished a pattern similar to the one I have shown here on the lower tuck for smallmouth. They really seemed to like it. I think the 2 bigest problems I have are the hooks and eyes being too small.

kentuckytroutbum
02-18-2011, 11:52 AM
Rainbow Warrior-

I'd like to see how you connected the front and back portions of the fly. Maybe take some additional shots with the front portion pulled back to show the construction of the rear portion. The recipe would be nice also. Thanks

Bill

olesmoke
02-18-2011, 01:10 PM
rainbow warrior try the mustad 3366 hooks for the front either size 4 or 6 and I use any 2x long shank for the back because I cut it off at the bend.I dont want any tongue or deep hooks in the fish.You will miss some short strikes but the fish seem to like the quick release to fight another day.Be safe

Rainbow Warrior
02-18-2011, 04:27 PM
Rainbow Warrior-

I'd like to see how you connected the front and back portions of the fly. Maybe take some additional shots with the front portion pulled back to show the construction of the rear portion. The recipe would be nice also. Thanks

Bill
This is the best I could get. What you do it cut a piece of 20-25 lb. mono and tie one end in. I tied about 3/4" of it on the hookshank tightly and it held real well. Once you have it tied all the way to the bend of the hook, take the back part of the fly and put the mono through the hook eye. (the back part has to be tied first) Once you have done this, tie the line back on the hook shank. You leave a little loop, so the fly has more action to it. I hope the picture helps. http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx294/troutFREAK134/DSCF2442.jpg
Recipe:
Thread: white 6/0
Hooks: should be a #4 or 6
body: white marabou wrapped like hackle
Connecting Material: 25 lb. line
Eyes: Dumbell eyes appropriate size for the hook.

The pattern is pretty basic and easy to tie. It just takes quite a bit of marabou.
Olesmoke, i looked at those hooks. I like them. I will have to order some and give it a shot.

olesmoke
02-18-2011, 09:16 PM
send me an address andI will send you a few of each size to try before buying them.

kentuckytroutbum
02-19-2011, 08:05 AM
Rainbow Warrior-

Thanks for the additional photo. Yes, I agree its hard to take a photo of that area, the marabou seems to want to go everywhere it can, even if its in the way. Also, thanks for the recipe. Its a great looking fly. ;)

Bill

MadisonBoats
02-19-2011, 07:38 PM
I love this topic. I have been working on articulated streamers for the past few months. My biggest issue is the fouling of the hook due to the fly's body snagging on casts. Here is the latest streamer I have designed that has given me pleasant results with the Brook Trout on the Clinch. Note: it is a hook to hook set up.

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/183943_10150153390673319_718858318_8128572_6836361 _n.jpg

Rainbow Warrior
02-19-2011, 10:20 PM
MB, that is an interesting fly. How did you connect them "hook to hook"? I have not fished the pattern I made yet, so I don't know if it will foul bad. I can't wait to head to the clinch. We are bringing our driftboat up there when our TU chapter does it's stream of the month this summer. It looks like a great place!

olesmoke
02-19-2011, 11:30 PM
Rainbow Warrior here is one of the olive that has fooled the brownies for me .Lots of meat for the meat eaters.No problem with foul hooks with the single hook only up front.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y289/22midge/PICT0026-2.jpg

Rainbow Warrior
02-19-2011, 11:47 PM
That fly looks great! I am just getting into tying streamers, but I like fishing them. I have caught my biggest brown on one. That sort of looks like an olive sex dungeon streamer. Try that pattern in yellow too. That's my favorite big brown color. Is it a hard one to make?

kentuckytroutbum
02-20-2011, 08:45 AM
Shawn-

That's a GREAT looking fly, please share the reciipe.

On the fouling issue, have you tried clipping off the hook bend of the second (rear) hook after you tie it? (I'd leave it on during tying to clamp it in the vise.) In a a trophy section, you might have to clip it off anyway, if the regs say one hook only.

Thanks

Bill

olesmoke
02-20-2011, 10:07 AM
Rainbo Warrior here is the yellow pattern for you to take a look at.Be safe

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y289/22midge/PICT0032-1.jpg

Corbo
02-20-2011, 12:52 PM
"tube" body flies/streamers etc. don't use two hooks but allow you to make a fly as long as you want.... I tried it with a specialized vice and all but found it too frustrating. You guys are talented!

MadisonBoats
02-21-2011, 10:43 AM
Shawn-

That's a GREAT looking fly, please share the reciipe.

On the fouling issue, have you tried clipping off the hook bend of the second (rear) hook after you tie it? (I'd leave it on during tying to clamp it in the vise.) In a a trophy section, you might have to clip it off anyway, if the regs say one hook only.

Thanks

Bill

Bill,
I used a size 12 long shank with a size 14 emerger-? (if I can remember correctly). I tied the flies in two-stages:1. I tied the tail by itself in the vise using pheasant tails, gray dubbing, copper wire as a wrap. It looks like I added a bead in the picture. However; that is just the side of the hook eye.

2. For the lead hook, I crushed the barb very flat and slid the eye of the second hook on to the bend. You may have to play around with a few hook types to find one that will do this smoothly. I loosened up the trailer hook eye with an old dubbing needle to give it more movement. To secure the trailer hook; I started a tapered thread ball about midway up the hook bend and whip-finished. I added a couple coats of 'Hard As Nails' to the thread ball.

3. The front-hook is only black-ice dubbing, ginger hackle, and stopper chain eyes.
*It works very well and the trailer attachment keeps it from having too much range of motion to foul the setup. I usually throw it ahead of a drift and let it dance by itself in the ripple. The brookies like it most of all.:biggrin:

**I crushed the trailer barb after taking the picture. The key to this setup is to limit the range of motion for the trailer hook so that it does not interfere with the lead hook in the cast.

I borrowed this idea from DAVE WHITLOCK. I just changed how they hooks are connected. I have found that using a connecting loop can create too much of a range of movement-allowing the trailer hook to foul the front hook and tippet.

Illustration/Design by Dave Whitlock:
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/185604_10150154612603319_718858318_8142688_8253875 _n.jpg

Heavynets
02-21-2011, 03:39 PM
Tie a horizontal loop with heavy mono from the front fly similar to the vertical loop that's shown in the illustration. Make the loop a little larger and place it under the back fly to keep the back fly from swinging down.

kentuckytroutbum
02-22-2011, 10:33 AM
Just a thought...... What if you made the loop out of lead or lead free wire?
I'm thinking it would add some weight to the front portion to get the fly down in the water column, and still allow the tail to occilate back & forth, and hopefully not foul the front and the hook.

Bill

MadisonBoats
02-22-2011, 11:31 AM
Just a thought...... What if you made the loop out of lead or lead free wire?
I'm thinking it would add some weight to the front portion to get the fly down in the water column, and still allow the tail to occilate back & forth, and hopefully not foul the front and the hook.

Bill

I considered that option. However; I liked using normal tying thread to shape an nice pyramid knob for the second eye to rest on and to move laterally. It was much easier to utilize and it seems to work great. I coated the knot with about 2-3 coats of 'Hard as Nails'.

I have used many of Dave Whitlock's Designs and he is fabulous with his illustrations. The one I attached works pretty good for the design he has illustrated. However; rubber legs, marabou tails, and any loose flash will almost always foul the rig after a few casts.:frown:

*Another consideration is to be mindful if the fly floats upside down or right side up:) That makes a huge difference too.:rolleyes:

dogfish
02-22-2011, 02:08 PM
I would advise against the use of lead or lead free for your articulation material as the material will undergo "metal fatigue" at the hinge point and innevitably break. I guided up in Alaska where we would often use a tough braided line for articulating King flies. Never had any issues with heavy Mono either, I like the braid though because I feel it gives the fly better motion in the water since it is not as stiff as the mono.

kentuckytroutbum
02-22-2011, 04:00 PM
I've also seen photos of articulated flies tied with bead chain for the abdomen. The bead chain was tied to the shank of the hook, and then wrapped with dubbing and a split tail of goose biot. The wrapped bead chain gave the appearance of a segmented abdomen, which I thought was pretty cool.

olesmoke
02-22-2011, 07:02 PM
dogfish I like the fly line backing ( 20# ) to join the front and back.

whitefeather
04-09-2011, 12:43 AM
Shawn,

That is a nice looking fly! I like it!

Kind of reminds me of a tractor trailer for trout!

Trico
04-09-2011, 12:02 PM
I have used both mono and wire to connect articulated flies. I like the wire the best. I use a stainless steel wire. I normally place a couple of small glass beads on the "connector" wire and use a hook with a straight eye. This helps eliminate fouling issues and the fly will have better action in the water.
http://http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l599/trico53/flies_048.jpg

Trico
04-09-2011, 12:18 PM
I tried posting a photo of one of my articulated flies in my post and was unsuccessful. I will try again.

http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l599/trico53/flies_048.jpg