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MadisonBoats
07-07-2011, 02:47 PM
I thought some of you might be interested in a few of these reports and notes from http://www.norrisnews.net/city-hall.html.

Norris Police Reports

Word To The Wise:



* Theft of a TVA truck (it was recovered in town) and a break-in at a TVA building, both over the July 4 weekend.
* Removal of a mailbox shaped like a fish lure from a property in the 90 block Reservoir Road on July 2.
July 6, 9:01 p.m.: Lewd behavior. Norris police checked a parking area off Powerhouse Road after receiving a report of a couple having intimate relations in a small black convertible there. The vehicle was not found.
July 4, 7:12 p.m.: Disabled car. A silver sedan was reported broken down and partly blocking the road on Norris Freeway near Island Home Baptist Church. Police found that the owner was moving the car into the church lot and had called AAA to tow it.
July 1, 7:42 p.m.: Suspicious person. A man told police that a suspicious man in a black Michigan car was parked at the end of the Songbird Trail; police checked the man and found no issues.


Recent Weekly Summaries


NORRIS, 6/29/11


an off-duty ranger at Norris Dam State Park reported hearing a crash while he was walking his dog the night of June 22 (a black Chevy pickup had a hit a tree; police directed traffic while the Tennessee Highway Patrol had the roadway cleared).

NORRIS, 6/15/11

* A possibly rabid coyote, staggering and foaming at the mouth, was reported June 14 near Rice Grist Mill in Norris Municipal Watershed (it was gone when police arrived).
* At 2 a.m. June 14, police found a door forced open at the Crosby Threshing Barn in Norris Dam State Park. The barn and the nearby Rice Grist Mill and Lenoir Museum appeared secure but the door was damaged; a park ranger took a report.
June 8 below Norris Dam, where a 54-year-old man had fallen on rocks along the river and broken his arm (he was carried up the steep slope to an ambulance and taken to Parkwest Medical Center, Knoxville).
a couple was reported at 9:08 p.m. June 9 being intimate in a public area at the Norris Dam visitor center (when an officer arrived they had left);

NORRIS 6/7/11


* On June 4 at 12:30 p.m., a woman flagged down a Norris officer at Powerhouse Road and Norris Freeway, saying she had been running on the Songbird Trail when she noticed a man near the canoe launch staring at her. He asked if he could run with her, she said; she told him no, but he tried to run with her anyway. Frightened, she ran as fast as she could to her car. Police did not find the man; extra patrols were ordered for the area.

NORRIS 5/25/11

A half-grown Angus steer (or a big black Angus bull, as some startled residents described him) led police a merry chase through Norris neighborhoods on Sunday, May 22, his progress marked by a cacophony of barking dogs.

The bovine was first reported at 11 a.m. in the roadway in the 130 block Oak Road; several more callers, including this reporter on West Norris Road, told police they had seen the beast before he turned up at 11:40, blocking the highway at Norris Freeway and the TVA Weir Dam. An officer chased him off the road, the creature ran into the woods and at 12:21 p.m. appeared in a yard in the 50 block Hickory Trail before running back into the trees once more.

Chief Danny Humphrey estimated the size of the steer at 500 or 600 pounds, saying, “There are bears bigger than he was.” Humphrey tried again Monday, May 23, to capture the steer near Island Home Baptist Church, but he ran west toward Hillvale Road, out of the city limits. The last Humphrey heard, he said, county officers were trying to corral the steer near the Museum of Appalachia and the NAGAF ball fields.

NORRIS, 5/18/11


on May 16, Norris police helped TVA police rescue a 9-year-old boy trapped on a rock ledge at the West Overlook of Norris Dam;
Norris police assisted a Norris Dam State Park officer May 14 in checking on a 911 hangup call at the park campground (the park officer arrested a man for having an open beer container);
man threatening suicide April 26 found holding a knife to his throat at the West Overlook of Norris Dam (captured without injury);

bhrt
07-07-2011, 02:56 PM
I thought some of you might be interested in a few of these reports and notes from http://www.norrisnews.net/city-hall.html.


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* On June 4 at 12:30 p.m., a woman flagged down a Norris officer at Powerhouse Road and Norris Freeway, saying she had been running on the Songbird Trail when she noticed a man near the canoe launch staring at her. He asked if he could run with her, she said; she told him no, but he tried to run with her anyway. Frightened, she ran as fast as she could to her car. Police did not find the man; extra patrols were ordered for the area. "

That sounds like one of Grouseman's moves...

Corbo
07-07-2011, 05:42 PM
I bumped into an exuberant young fellow a few weeks ago who was just learning to fly fish on the Clinch.

He told me that a few weeks prior while fishing near the jail a TWRA officer showed up while he was wading the river and that three others who were spin fishing promptly left. Seems the officer started walking the bank and found three large trout on a stringer un-attended by anyone and chose to write this young man a ticket claiming they must be his fish.

The odd thing is this newbie is not talented enough to catch these fish!

The newbie (to his credit) was still excited to be learning fly fishing and did not appear to know very much as his fly line was incorrectly attached to his reel (of course I remedied this situation). This kid would be excited to catch ANY trout much less kill three large trout and try to hide them.

Kudos to the kid for claiming he would win on his day in court and shame on the officer.

MadisonBoats
07-07-2011, 07:00 PM
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* On June 4 at 12:30 p.m., a woman flagged down a Norris officer at Powerhouse Road and Norris Freeway, saying she had been running on the Songbird Trail when she noticed a man near the canoe launch staring at her. He asked if he could run with her, she said; she told him no, but he tried to run with her anyway. Frightened, she ran as fast as she could to her car. Police did not find the man; extra patrols were ordered for the area. "

That sounds like one of Grouseman's moves...
This incident was a little freaky. My mother and sister both walk these trails daily and I would be extremely upset if someone did this to one of them.

I bumped into an exuberant young fellow a few weeks ago who was just learning to fly fish on the Clinch.

He told me that a few weeks prior while fishing near the jail a TWRA officer showed up while he was wading the river and that three others who were spin fishing promptly left. Seems the officer started walking the bank and found three large trout on a stringer un-attended by anyone and chose to write this young man a ticket claiming they must be his fish.

The odd thing is this newbie is not talented enough to catch these fish!

The newbie (to his credit) was still excited to be learning fly fishing and did not appear to know very much as his fly line was incorrectly attached to his reel (of course I remedied this situation). This kid would be excited to catch ANY trout much less kill three large trout and try to hide them.

Kudos to the kid for claiming he would win on his day in court and shame on the officer.

Corbo,
That is interesting! I do know that TWRA is creating a more obvious and frequent presence on the Clinch.:smile: I know most of the officers very well and I would hate for one of them to err on a decision that has a reasonable explanation supported by witnesses. He may have been with the other guys and in possession of the fish at one point or another....? The guys I know do not just walk up and write tickets at the church area. The usually have their binoculars on for a reason and they have adequate information on who to approach first on the water. I hate that the kid got a ticket and I hope it comes out well for him. I know that the officers are only trying to protect our resources and fulfill their obligations as TWRA Agents.

*Also, be sure and have your boat/trailer in tip shape on August 5th if you are launching at Peach Orchard or using Hillvale.


THP Announces Checkpoints

The Tennessee Highway Patrol will be conducting several drivers’ license roadside safety checkpoints between now and the end of September in Anderson County. August 5th on Hillvale at Peach Orchard. The THP says these checkpoints have proven to be an effective way of enforcing the state’s drivers’ license laws while ensuring the protection of all motorists. The THP will also conduct a roadside sobriety checkpoint on July 29th on Highway 61 at Bethel Road and another on September 23rd on State Route 62, a half-mile east of Union Valley Road.

Flat Fly n
07-11-2011, 02:09 PM
Most of this is why I carry 100% of the time down there. Can't ever get a warden to show up let alone a Norris cop if you needed one in a hurry.

MadisonBoats
07-11-2011, 05:52 PM
Flat,
You will be noticing some serious presence now. You should be hearing more about people being checked on the river at all points. All I can say is that I hope the fish mongers have their tape measures.:rolleyes:

DarrinG
07-11-2011, 09:24 PM
Sounds like it's a popular place to go fornicate in the backseat too.:biggrin:

Knothead
07-12-2011, 11:59 AM
Sorry the young man got a ticket but I question the logic of the officer. I just hope I'm not around a bank robbery. It's a shame that we don't have more officers to enforce the laws.

Trico
07-12-2011, 01:01 PM
Remember this. Every story has three sides. Yours, Mine and the TRUTH!

MadisonBoats
07-12-2011, 02:49 PM
Sounds like it's a popular place to go fornicate in the backseat too.:biggrin:

It sure was when I was a teenager:cool:. The view of the dam at night from the east side of the park at the power lines is absolutely amazing. Just have to watch out for the prowling deer and racoons.

Remember this. Every story has three sides. Yours, Mine and the TRUTH!

...and each story is always muddled by interpretation!:eek:

GrouseMan77
07-12-2011, 09:36 PM
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* On June 4 at 12:30 p.m., a woman flagged down a Norris officer at Powerhouse Road and Norris Freeway, saying she had been running on the Songbird Trail when she noticed a man near the canoe launch staring at her. He asked if he could run with her, she said; she told him no, but he tried to run with her anyway. Frightened, she ran as fast as she could to her car. Police did not find the man; extra patrols were ordered for the area. "

That sounds like one of Grouseman's moves...

That wasn't me....I'm more of a jogger.

I saw the guy in the black Thunderbird with MI plates. Even I thought he was creepy and took down his plates.

I walk down there all the time and run into a weirdo ever now and again.

Flat Fly n
07-14-2011, 10:48 PM
man threatening suicide April 26 found holding a knife to his throat at the West Overlook of Norris Dam (captured without injury);


Only Two reasons for this to happen....either he was a bait fisherman that realized that old grandmothers fish like he does....or that he told stories about how big the fish he caught were all made up to make himself look good until he looked in the mirror are realized his ways.



Madison
.....get a carry permit, and a ruler. Fear no one, or the truth. HA!

MadisonBoats
07-15-2011, 07:51 AM
man threatening suicide April 26 found holding a knife to his throat at the West Overlook of Norris Dam (captured without injury);


Only Two reasons for this to happen....either he was a bait fisherman that realized that old grandmothers fish like he does....or that he told stories about how big the fish he caught were all made up to make himself look good until he looked in the mirror are realized his ways.

I hated to hear about this lost soul. Things happen in life and sometimes people lose Faith and hope. I only wish that I could reach out to him and to try lend a shoulder to get him on his feet! I shared this report in hopes that it would remind us to be more aware of others and increase our situational awareness! One of our forum friends was the fisherman who broke his arm. I was told from a friend that he laid on the riverbank for about 30 minutes before someone heard his requests for help.



Madison
.....get a carry permit, and a ruler. Fear no one, or the truth. HA!

Flat, fortunately God gave me the best protection and the ability to reason! I try to exude a friendly demeanor and kind spirit. This seems to protect me from most difficult situations.

Flat Fly n
07-16-2011, 09:20 AM
Madison,
I am glad you are such a trusting and kind soul. We need more folks like you. I've been on the other end of trying to help the folks hurt by the criminal element that is all around us. The meth heads, etc will kill you for their next fix, or if you come up on their cooking operations in the national parks while your fishing. The jails are full of the folks that got caught for preying on the innocent nice souls that tried to help these people or who where just caught in the wrong place and wrong time.

Just being prepared to protect myself, instead of using National Dial A Prayer.....911.

http://www.wbir.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=111446&catid=2
http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2011/jan/17/reported-meth-labs-up-in-2010/?print=1

Trico
07-16-2011, 12:46 PM
I spent 36 years in law enforcement. This year I had the unpleasant task of attending the funeral for one of our officers shot and killed in the line of duty.
I guess I have a pretty poor opinion of mankind in general. Still Madison makes a good point I believe the vast majority of time you can avoid a confrontation by not being part of one. It normally takes too to tangle. Don't let it get that far. Let it be you to just walk away. There are those rare circumstances when you can run into the person who means you harm. You can also be involved in the far more likely incident of a serious crash. I hear a lot of talk about being armed and everyone thinks they are prepared. I can't help but think carrying a firearm gives most people a false sense of security. Enough said. I am retired and really don't mean to participate on this site for such talk. Let's go fishing!

duckypaddler
07-17-2011, 08:48 AM
I hated to hear about this lost soul. Things happen in life and sometimes people lose Faith and hope. I only wish that I could reach out to him and to try lend a shoulder to get him on his feet! I shared this report in hopes that it would remind us to be more aware of others and increase our situational awareness! One of our forum friends was the fisherman who broke his arm. I was told from a friend that he laid on the riverbank for about 30 minutes before someone heard his requests for help.



Flat, fortunately God gave me the best protection and the ability to reason! I try to exude a friendly demeanor and kind spirit. This seems to protect me from most difficult situations.

I'm with you on this one:biggrin:

Reason is much better. In the last 20 years I have had less than a handful of encounters that have spooked me a bit. While some may see this as an argument to carry, I would argue otherwise. One of these situations the guy actually pulled a gun, and in another the guy had a pistol in his pants that he made sure we all saw as he was acting all "incest crazy". While both of these people made sure to dominate, and ensure they had the upper hand they were both just using the gun for leverage. In one of these cases the guys behavior was so outrageous that if I would have had a gun I would have shot him. I'm sure it would have been justified, but am glad it didn't turn out that way. I think it was much better of me to apoligize, even though I wasn't doing anything wrong, and use reason to get out of a situation after letting him rant. While some may see this as cowardly, or letting a "bad guy" just go on to do it to someone else, I think it was the best thing as it diffused a crazy situation. I also don't have to live with someone's life on my conscience.

I have nothing against guns, own a couple, and grew up in an law enforcement family that interacted heavily with them. While I believe there are places where you might want to carry, I believe that in 90% of the Smokies you are just carrying a bunch of extra weight, and really there is no need for a gun.

whitefeather
08-04-2011, 04:42 PM
I bumped into an exuberant young fellow a few weeks ago who was just learning to fly fish on the Clinch.

He told me that a few weeks prior while fishing near the jail a TWRA officer showed up while he was wading the river and that three others who were spin fishing promptly left. Seems the officer started walking the bank and found three large trout on a stringer un-attended by anyone and chose to write this young man a ticket claiming they must be his fish.

The odd thing is this newbie is not talented enough to catch these fish!

The newbie (to his credit) was still excited to be learning fly fishing and did not appear to know very much as his fly line was incorrectly attached to his reel (of course I remedied this situation). This kid would be excited to catch ANY trout much less kill three large trout and try to hide them.

Kudos to the kid for claiming he would win on his day in court and shame on the officer.

Corbo,

What is the definition of "un-attended" down there? Is it illegal to be in the river fishing and have your legal catch tied up at the bank, or do you have to maintain constant possession?

I would assume the officer would have to "prove" a possession link to the kid at the same time the fish were unattended, in court, if he showed up as the accuser. Good luck with that one, unless he has photos.

This seems like pretty weak and petty enforcement, when their presence and enforcement is certainly needed and appreciated. Bad or sloppy enforcement is almost as bad, if not worse than no enforcement.

What say you forum members? Educate me on this one so I don't fall into the trap myself.

MadisonBoats
08-05-2011, 07:42 AM
THP Announces Checkpoints

The Tennessee Highway Patrol will be conducting several drivers’ license roadside safety checkpoints between now and the end of September in Anderson County. August 5th on Hillvale at Peach Orchard. The THP says these checkpoints have proven to be an effective way of enforcing the state’s drivers’ license laws while ensuring the protection of all motorists. The THP will also conduct a roadside sobriety checkpoint on July 29th on Highway 61 at Bethel Road and another on September 23rd on State Route 62, a half-mile east of Union Valley Road.