View Full Version : Double Nymph setup
09-30-2011, 08:17 AM
I just saw yesterday were some guys leave an long tail kn the knot of the first fly and tie the dropper to that. I have always tied the second fly to the shank of the second. Is there a preferred way, or are they both the same? I think the first way would be easier/faster during initial setup, but when changing flies on the river, would be about the same .
09-30-2011, 08:24 AM
I think it is just a matter of preference and fly selection. There are numerous setups that I have seen printed. The main issue in my view is focusing on the intention of throwing multiple setups. Most people try to address multiple levels of a hatch. Others do it to give them more opportunities to catch fish by addressing two different flies. However; I have found that this setup does not work well for me on tailwaters. It usually detracts from my presentation and it is more visible to trout. Plus, I always end up getting wind knots and tangles from my wild casts.:eek:
09-30-2011, 08:28 AM
Thanks Shawn, I agree it does tend to get me tangled more. I guess maybe I should focus on presenting one fly better then later try two. I did fish two on tuesday, but the only fish I caught were on the upper fly.
Edit: Posted prior to Shawns response:
Also, how do you gauge distance between flies? Water depth? Always the same? What about dry/emerger riggs. Should the dropper be closer than with double nymph?
09-30-2011, 08:40 AM
Check the regs for the particular streams you are fishing. Some require a single hook fly only, some allow one fly and one dropper, etc.
09-30-2011, 08:57 AM
The only time I use a double nymph rig is in deeper water and I am essentially using the first fly (usually a beadhead tied closest to the leader) to sink the second fly. Basically it is acting as a split shot with a hook that occasionally attracts catches fish. I have read that, like adding shot, the double rig can get you a better drift.
I usually tie the dropper to the hook bend of the first fly with a pitzen knot becasue I can tie that one in the air and then slip it over the hook and tighten. While I do think that having line tied to the hook makes hookups more difficult, I just fond this method a lot easier than others such as tying to the eye of the first nymph.
When I actually see trout feeding I use a single nymph or maybe a dry/dropper rig because, like Shawn, I feel that a double rig is often a colossal tangle waiting to happen!
09-30-2011, 11:08 AM
I use a double set up when I am trying to pin point what the fish are taking. I use a larger b.h. 24-32 inches on the tippet then 18-20 inches below the first fly as a dropper. It takes some getting use to but I ain't usually smart enough to figure out what the fish are taking so it is sorta like a buffet for the fish.
I also fish droppers off a dry and the air knot as Hugh H. told me is difficult to master but useful and increases your changes of hooking up. I also use a dropper to increase drag, sometimes they just want it slowed down.
I hardly ever use only one fly unless I can zone in on what they taking.
When fishing two nymphs I space them 6-8 inches apart. If fishing a dry and dropper or dry and emerger I space them about 2 feet apart. I only use the dry and emerger because I cannot see the emerger by itself (something about age I think).
I prefer to tie the dropper through the eye of the top fly but, I don't think it matters much.
10-16-2011, 10:29 AM
I haven't tried it, but the system proposed in the above link looks interesting.
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