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Rodonthefly
12-30-2011, 12:03 PM
So I have been tying a lot of streamers over the past few days. I got a sinking line for Christmas and I'm wanting to float the Clinch and try out these new goodies. I have floated a lot on one with much luck but I haven't really floated much on 2 gens. Now I know droping anchor is pretty much out of the question. Now would you guys beat the banks and fish the log jams an such? Or would it be better to just cast blind? I'm thinking with all the high water these fish will be held in tight to cover. Your guys thoughts on this? Also what are your go to streamers? I have buggers ,bunnies, slump busters, is there anything I'm missing? Any info would be great to incress my chances this cabin fever is getting to me in a bad kind of way.
Thanks
Rod

Troutman
12-30-2011, 02:00 PM
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MadisonBoats
12-30-2011, 05:07 PM
Rod,
I have floated on two-generators several times and it is a tough time catching fish. Most of my like came on working the bank on the inside of each river bend.

Corbo
01-01-2012, 10:26 AM
Well, while I haven't tried "Montreal Whore" streamer flies on the Clinch they have always been my "go to" streamer for browns in Maine in size 2.

I also tie something I call an "Epoxy Bunny" that is awesome on large predatory trout... if you want I'll send one of each to you, send me an e-mail richardcorbettjr@yahoo.com or call me. perhaps I could send them to Shawn (who is good a posting pics on the forum and he could show them to you all.

Richard

MadisonBoats
01-01-2012, 11:12 AM
Well, while I haven't tried "Montreal Whore" streamer flies on the Clinch they have always been my "go to" streamer for browns in Maine in size 2.

I also tie something I call an "Epoxy Bunny" that is awesome on large predatory trout... if you want I'll send one of each to you, send me an e-mail richardcorbettjr@yahoo.com or call me. perhaps I could send them to Shawn (who is good a posting pics on the forum and he could show them to you all.

Richard

Richard,
Anytime my friend...My email is shawn.madison@comcast.net if you want to email them to me and have me post. Fishing the Clinch at high flow is tough to get anything down deep or to present. Well; it has been for me.:redface:

Rodonthefly
01-01-2012, 12:14 PM
I would like to see them as well. We floated yesterday and I can say I'm now hooked on fishing streamers on high water. Be looking for a report soon, my buddy wilson took the pictures and was going to post the report. What a fun way to end the year. Happy New Year to all of you guys. May 2012 bring a lot of great fishing trips to you all.

MadisonBoats
01-01-2012, 02:21 PM
I would like to see them as well. We floated yesterday and I can say I'm now hooked on fishing streamers on high water. Be looking for a report soon, my buddy wilson took the pictures and was going to post the report. What a fun way to end the year. Happy New Year to all of you guys. May 2012 bring a lot of great fishing trips to you all.

Awesome Rod! I need to get some pointers from you on fishing the high water.:smile: Glad you had a fun day...

Corbo
01-02-2012, 07:48 PM
Years ago I had this "sink tip" gizmo that I could attach to the end of my floating fly line by "loop to loop" and then use a short leader... it sank like a rock and I used it mostly for fishing American Shad on the Connecticut river. Wish I remembered what it was called.

On another note..... I had to sell both my jey boats since I moved here but still have 16 foot Fisher aluminum with 35 HP outboard.... Is this too much boat for the Peach Orchard?

MadisonBoats
01-02-2012, 08:28 PM
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On another note..... I had to sell both my jey boats since I moved here but still have 16 foot Fisher aluminum with 35 HP outboard.... Is this too much boat for the Peach Orchard?

Richard,
That is not too much for the Clinch on one-generation after the river has equalized from a rise. There are 2-3 areas you would have to trim the motor, but, I could help you with that information. The best application for utilizing this setup would be to launch at the 61 Bridge and go up stream and drift down-Repeat!:biggrin:

Wilson10
01-04-2012, 12:18 AM
Report:

I apologize for the delay. We had a fun day and it was great to get out on the water. It was just enough to get a fix. We floated from millers to 61 bridge and only saw a couple jon boats. The weather was beautiful but the wind was strong at times. The fishing was decent and was about what we expected. Hooked up a few times and got a couple to the boat. Here's Rod with the largest fish of the day.
http://i332.photobucket.com/albums/m327/AdamWilson10/photobucket-1804-1325447510900.jpg

The day ended kinda "crappy" as you can tell from the picture below. As we were coming into the take out at 61 bridge Rod got a pleasant surprise which landed right on his Simms hat.
http://i332.photobucket.com/albums/m327/AdamWilson10/photobucket-4764-1325446484024.jpg
We are both glad we took the trip. We probably could have hit some other nearby waters and caught more fish, but it sure was good to be on the Clinch...and we're gonna do it again real soon!:biggrin:

waterwolf
01-04-2012, 01:18 AM
That fish is in horrible condition, and doesn't appear to weathering the high water very well at all.

No Hackle
01-04-2012, 08:27 AM
It's ok wolf it'll probley get eatan by a striper anyway.
lynn

Grannyknot
01-04-2012, 09:49 AM
Rod & Adam...looks like fun. I need to get back out on the big river with you two.

Rodonthefly
01-04-2012, 10:01 AM
That fish is in horrible condition, and doesn't appear to weathering the high water very well at all.


Jim, I wasn't too pleased with the condition of the fish as well, I was thinking they might have been that way because they were spawned out, but after all it would be hard to eat a bug that was going by you at fast speeds as well.Why don't you put the word in to your buddies at TVA and tell them to back off some.

MadisonBoats
01-04-2012, 10:50 AM
That fish is in horrible condition, and doesn't appear to weathering the high water very well at all.

Jim, I wasn't too pleased with the condition of the fish as well, I was thinking they might have been that way because they were spawned out, but after all it would be hard to eat a bug that was going by you at fast speeds as well.Why don't you put the word in to your buddies at TVA and tell them to back off some.

Rod,
I think he was being cynical! Glad you got out on the water and caught some fish bud. Thanks for sharing the report.

Rodonthefly
01-04-2012, 10:52 AM
Rod & Adam...looks like fun. I need to get back out on the big river with you two.

Give us a yell, there was an extra seat on that trip.

And Shawn, fishing streamers is a a whole new ball game, one must have a sinking line and be willing to cast till your arm falls off.

Wilson10
01-04-2012, 04:36 PM
Rod & Adam...looks like fun. I need to get back out on the big river with you two.

Cody,

I'll certainly give you holler on our next 'venture. Hope that new baby is doing well!

waterwolf
01-05-2012, 12:09 AM
Jim, I wasn't too pleased with the condition of the fish as well, I was thinking they might have been that way because they were spawned out, but after all it would be hard to eat a bug that was going by you at fast speeds as well.Why don't you put the word in to your buddies at TVA and tell them to back off some.


Shouldn't be spawned out yet, that shouldn't happen for another month or so.

Fish has good color, just really skinny, as that size usually are really chunky.

Did y'all catch any others? If so how was their condition?

I saw some pics from some other buddies of mine and they looked to be pretty healthy.

BTW I am not knocking your fish, just concerned with the lack of weight it is carrying through the winter.

Rodonthefly
01-05-2012, 10:09 AM
Jim, I sent you a email this morning.

David Knapp
01-05-2012, 12:49 PM
Nice job guys! Did you throw streamers the whole time? I love the winter streamer bite. Definitely a fun way to fish...

Rodonthefly
01-05-2012, 02:30 PM
Yes we did David. I was trying to brake in a new SA sink tip express, that I had got for Christmas. Looks like that's how us tailwater boys are going to have to fish for awhile.

David Knapp
01-05-2012, 06:34 PM
Rod, out of curiosity how did you like the sink tip line? I always use full sinking lines for throwing streamers but know at least some people like the sink tips better. Did you feel like it was getting your fly down sufficiently?

Wilson10
01-05-2012, 06:59 PM
Rod, out of curiosity how did you like the sink tip line? I always use full sinking lines for throwing streamers but know at least some people like the sink tips better. Did you feel like it was getting your fly down sufficiently?


David,

I was curious about the sinking line as to how deep it would get the flies on heavy generation. I have to say I was quite surprised how deep our flies were getting. In most areas of the river we were able to get them down to the bottom.

Also - its also been said to me that sinking lines don't cast well. We didn't have any trouble what so ever laying out tons of line with that Scott 6wt.

David Knapp
01-05-2012, 08:00 PM
David,

I was curious about the sinking line as to how deep it would get the flies on heavy generation. I have to say I was quite surprised how deep our flies were getting. In most areas of the river we were able to get them down to the bottom.

Also - its also been said to me that sinking lines don't cast well. We didn't have any trouble what so ever laying out tons of line with that Scott 6wt.

Were you using both full sinking and sinktip lines or just the sinktip? I've never had too much trouble with full sinking (people I fish with will probably say otherwise :eek: :biggrin:) but wonder if the sinktip will get down as well...

Rodonthefly
01-05-2012, 08:43 PM
Were you using both full sinking and sinktip lines or just the sinktip? I've never had too much trouble with full sinking (people I fish with will probably say otherwise :eek: :biggrin:) but wonder if the sinktip will get down as well...

We used just the sink tip, being newbies at the whole high water streamer game I can't speak for full sinking lines cause I haven't fished them. I can say I did about loose the new sink tip I had got for Christmas by hanging the bottom. The streamers I tied and used for this trip were only weighted with a brass bead. I didn't use tungsten beads on any of these flys. However I will say that since I grew up on the river and know the river bottom well fishing the real deep pools was a little tougher, I say that simply because I know weren't on the bottom in these areas. Again we are newbies in fishing this way so any advice you want to pass along feel free.

David Knapp
01-05-2012, 09:48 PM
We used just the sink tip, being newbies at the whole high water streamer game I can't speak for full sinking lines cause I haven't fished them. I can say I did about loose the new sink tip I had got for Christmas by hanging the bottom. The streamers I tied and used for this trip were only weighted with a brass bead. I didn't use tungsten beads on any of these flys. However I will say that since I grew up on the river and know the river bottom well fishing the real deep pools was a little tougher, I say that simply because I know weren't on the bottom in these areas. Again we are newbies in fishing this way so any advice you want to pass along feel free.

Rod, it sounds like you guys are giving it a good shot already. I mostly subscribe to Kelly Galloup's ideas and stay with unweighted flies. They move much better in the water but of course this means that you are trusting your line completely to get the fly down. I do fish heavily weighted flies some as well, mostly using ones with big dumbell eyes or zonkers... One of the keys is the retrieve. You want the streamer to be retrieved perpendicular to the current so the fish are getting a larger silhouette. Boat speed is crucial to making this work....

MadisonBoats
01-06-2012, 08:39 AM
David,

I was curious about the sinking line as to how deep it would get the flies on heavy generation. I have to say I was quite surprised how deep our flies were getting. In most areas of the river we were able to get them down to the bottom.

Also - its also been said to me that sinking lines don't cast well. We didn't have any trouble what so ever laying out tons of line with that Scott 6wt.

Were you using both full sinking and sinktip lines or just the sinktip? I've never had too much trouble with full sinking (people I fish with will probably say otherwise :eek: :biggrin:) but wonder if the sinktip will get down as well...

Adam/David,
On two-generators or more; I have experienced much difficulty getting my streamers to sink/present well due to the force of the current. I have used intermediate sinking line but it did not seem to work well. I think I will try a complete sinking line next and see if it works any better.

I am glad Rod/Adam/David gave their insight on this topic as it has been one that has giving me trouble on high water flows.

David Knapp
01-06-2012, 12:34 PM
Adam/David,
On two-generators or more; I have experienced much difficulty getting my streamers to sink/present well due to the force of the current. I have used intermediate sinking line but it did not seem to work well. I think I will try a complete sinking line next and see if it works any better.

I am glad Rod/Adam/David gave their insight on this topic as it has been one that has giving me trouble on high water flows.

Shawn, on high water it is crucial to get your boat as close to the calmer water along the banks as is practical. Slower water behind islands, etc., are also good places to look. The fish will still be along seems and pockets out of the current looking for food to come by in the faster flow nearby.