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Drugcop4
01-28-2012, 10:17 AM
So after recovering from my last Back country backpacking fishing trip I am hoping to plan another. Packing 5-7 miles one way is not a problem. However this year we would like to take our dogs; which means the GSMNP is out. We would like a somewhat maintained trail and preferably actual camp sights with of course stellar fishing. I would love to not have a killer hike when it comes to elevation as well. I know I am not asking for much. So far it looks like maybe the Bald River may fit the bill. Give me some ideas of what you would suggest. We would stay in the same camp site for a couple of days, not much for moving around. Thanks
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FishNHunt
01-28-2012, 08:25 PM
I would check first but, I believe the same rules are applied to Bald River Falls (Cherokee National Forest) as the National Park unless actually hunting. I could be wrong thou.

duckypaddler
01-28-2012, 08:26 PM
Easier hiking, plenty of sites, nice fishing and scenery. Depending on how many nights you are staying you might also hit up the headwaters of Citico Creek. Also may want to keep in mind water levels as I wouldn't want to be on Bald river when the Tellico is above 2 feet.

duckypaddler
01-28-2012, 08:29 PM
I would check first but, I believe the same rules are applied to Bald River Falls (Cherokee National Forest) as the National Park unless actually hunting. I could be wrong thou.

Dogs are most definately legal in the backcountry there:biggrin:

With a name like NarcoCop, I could see you being a stickler for the rules:smile:

Knothead
01-28-2012, 09:04 PM
I don't think you will have any trouble in the CNF. There are bears in the Tellico corridor. Check and make sure there are no hunting seasons when you go. My son and I checked once and didn't see any deer season listed. We got up to the Tellico and saw people with rifles and orange vests. We stopped and asked a fellow what was in season- bear!
TWRA is http://www.tnwildlife.org.

Drugcop4
01-29-2012, 09:28 AM
Thank you all so far, and I will take more advice. Yes I believe in following rules and it chaps my knickers when I see people with dogs on the GSMNP trails, mostly because I can't take mine. I do have orange vests for the pups that I would take along just in case. We are looking to go around Easter so I would think that there would be no seasons. But I am very ignorant about bear hunting. I will also look into CITICO if you have any references please share ... unless of course it is your honey hole.

TN Jed
01-29-2012, 12:40 PM
If you're going around Easter, you might want to keep in mind that it will be turkey season around here. The season will go from March 31 - May 13. I reckon it's a good idea to bring the orange vests for the pups! Best of luck to you.

Knothead
01-29-2012, 02:02 PM
TN Jed, good thinking!

Drugcop4
01-31-2012, 04:30 PM
Okay after all of the internet scouting I can do, I think we are heading to Bald River. If anyone can point me to available trail maps that would include campsites I would appreciate it. Also weather advice and fly selections for April 8 area would be great. Thanks folks.

Grannyknot
01-31-2012, 05:03 PM
Okay after all of the internet scouting I can do, I think we are heading to Bald River. If anyone can point me to available trail maps that would include campsites I would appreciate it. Also weather advice and fly selections for April 8 area would be great. Thanks folks.

There aren't any commercially available maps that show campsite locations, although several guide books are available that give accurate descriptions of their locations. Good thing is, assuming you are hiking in from the falls, there are 3 seperate camping spots before you hit the road at holly flats. Watch out for yellow jackets.

NDuncan
02-01-2012, 02:37 PM
Only 3?

When I went in Sept I hiked in from the top (Holly Flats area) and we did a shorter hike, only about 45 min and had stopped at the second one we came to, the first being only about 25 min from the upper road. I thought I read somewhere that there are primitive campsite about ever .5 mile?

Also If you hike in from the top, you will probably have more of a flat hike, the only part with a semi steep gradient would be the first part at the Falls.

You have probably already seen this if you have been scouting for info but if not here's a trail guide:

www.cherokeehikingclub.org/Bald%20River%20Trail.pdf (http://littleriveroutfitters.com/forum/www.cherokeehikingclub.org/Bald%20River%20Trail.pdf)

Grannyknot
02-01-2012, 03:04 PM
Only 3?



I've probably hiked the stretch between the falls and holly flats 6 or 8 times. There might be 4, with one being fairly small and indiscernible. I would say one might be a little disappointed if counting on a campsite every half mile.

NDuncan
02-01-2012, 03:35 PM
I've probably hiked the stretch between the falls and holly flats 6 or 8 times. There might be 4, with one being fairly small and indiscernible. I would say one might be a little disappointed if counting on a campsite every half mile.


That's good to know, I didn't go much further down the trail, and was just going off of what I had read. The first too seemed really close together/close to the holly flats end, so I just figured there were more further down

Drugcop4
02-01-2012, 11:16 PM
I have to say the more research I do the more I am considering car camping. There is way too much fishable water in such a short distance to limit to just Bald River. I usually fish in the park and I am very curious about Tellico and Citico. I have read posts where members have had concerns camping in some of the sites on the Tellico Road. I am not sure how crowded it would be from "just campers" over Easter. I would imagine most of the campers would be fishermen as well. So many streams, so little time.

Grannyknot
02-02-2012, 11:29 AM
Drugcop, I like the holly flats & north river campgrounds, but there are also several roadside campgrounds that are free, which don't have tent pads, tables, or pit toilets. I would say the majority of campers on the Tellico river aren't fishermen, but families with lots of kids. I don't really like camping along the Tellico, not because of any concerns, but just because of the crowds...also, I don't like fishing the Tellico itself very much.

The Citico area is really only worth the trip, in my opinion, if you are going to backpack in to one of the 2 forks. The fishing is just ok, but the area is rugged, beautiful, and worthy of exploration if you are into that sort of thing.

JoelO
02-03-2012, 12:00 PM
I agree with Grannyknot and would add that the Spivey Cove campground is pretty nice too...its the first one down from the Green Cove community. Be aware that in the pay as you go campgrounds (Holly Flats, North River, Spivey Cove) adult beverages are not allowed....I don't think that's an issue in the roadside campsites.

Holly Flats is nice but if you go there you're pretty much going to be fishing the Bald River and its feeders. We usually set up at Spivey Cove since its centrally located and fish all three streams (Bald, Tellico and North).

You'll generally have better luck on the Bald and North since they don't get pounded as much...stocking on the Tellico starts around March 15 if I'm not mistaken and you'll see alot of people hitting it. I don't think you can fish the Tellico on Thursdays/Fridays during stocking season (March 15 to Sept 15) either.