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cockeye valdez
02-15-2012, 04:50 PM
I've been reading about the legislative action or in this case 'non action' that is threatening the way the commission is structured and even its existence. I'm concerned about the politics in play. It seems that the representative from Spring City is trying to hold up the reappointment of the commission. I'm really not sure why or what he is trying to accomplish but I sure get concerned when I see political forces threatening our outdoor sports.
I don't always agree with the commission but I don't want to the throw the baby out the window with the bath water. I'm not sure what we can do about it but we should at least be aware.
Check out the article in the Knox. News Sentinel by Monty Halcomb. Fight lawmakers' assault on TWRA, it is interesting.
cv

kentuckytroutbum
02-15-2012, 06:29 PM
Uunfortunatly, politics does come into play with the legislature. They see it as a source of revenue, directly or indirectly, and something they can "regulate" for the public good.

The only way to get most of the politics out of the game is to make TWRA a self funded operation as is done in Kentucky. KY Fish & Wildllife receives NO general funds from the legislature. Their income is derived from hunting, fishing, and boat registration fees, along with grants from the USF&W Service. This allows them to make reasonably intelligent decisions with out the threat of having their funding curtailed. I know that they send out on-line surveys to solicit imput from users as to their needs & wants, and try to incorporate the imput into their decision making process.

buzzmcmanus
02-15-2012, 07:13 PM
TWRA is self sufficient. They get no general funds now. A couple politicians have an axe to grind and they plan to do it by threatening to abolish the commission.

kentuckytroutbum
02-15-2012, 08:00 PM
buzz-

Thanks for the update, I was in error. I was under the impression that TWRA received some of their funds from the legislature. Is there anyway to "force" the issue, and cause them to act?

cockeye valdez
02-16-2012, 09:40 AM
It appears the Spring City state rep has the power as chair of the sub-committee to place before the legislature bills and he is holding the reappointment of the commission ransom. It is true, TWRA receives no state funds. All revenue is derived from sportsmen/women. I suspect this is an attempt from special interest groups (commercial fishermen) who have given money to the Spring City rep. to blackmail the commission into allowing drag nets to be used in all deep water lakes or at least take TWRA funds (from our fees) to perform the $800,000 program to determine the effects of drag nets on fish other than the ones being targeted.

My son and I often speak about issues and how/why positions are taken. FOLLOW THE MONEY, you'll discover who is pulling the strings.
cv

silvercreek
02-16-2012, 10:19 AM
I believe the person you are referring to is Jim Cobb. Back in May, 2011 I emailed him about my concern over the TWRA commission. He replied that it was misinformation and that the commission was not going away. At the next meeting I believe he then adjourned the meeting before the issue of the commission could be brought up.

cockeye valdez
02-16-2012, 01:59 PM
Jim Cobb from Spring City, is the state legislator and "he refused to hear the bill in HIS committee and as it stands, the commission will cease to exist June 30." I quoted Monty Halcomb's article in the Knox. News Sentinel.

I emphasized 'HIS" because I believe he is acting as though he has ownership of what the committee can act or not act upon. By his willful refusal to let the committee vote, he is demonstrating that he is serving someone elses interest rather than simply fulfilling his duties as chairperson.

cv

kentuckytroutbum
02-16-2012, 02:22 PM
Remember this when his term comes up for re-election. Someone should take the initiative to ensure that the sportsmen & women of Tennessee are told of his deeds.

Knothead
02-16-2012, 03:26 PM
I was at the sub-committee hearing Tuesday on the TWRA/sunset issue. The bill went through. Mr. Nicely made some amendments to Mathey's bill but they died due to lack of a second. The only thing was the senate and house leaders can each appoint a member of the TWRC, raising the number to fifteen. You can go to www.tn.gov (http://www.tn.gov) and follow the yellow brick road to get info on bills, officials, and, I believe, a schedule of hearings.
TWRA receives no funds from the state.

cockeye valdez
02-16-2012, 03:38 PM
Thanks Knothead,
I typically do not get involved in politics as such but it eats me alive that this they can have that much control over a commission where no state funds are allocated.
I suppose this is a good lesson for us to stay aware. This could have gone bad quickly.

FishNHunt
02-20-2012, 12:47 AM
Dad (Cockeye Valdez) I don't agree with what the TWRA officals are sending up to the TWRC to vote upon. First we (me included) were shut out of OUR (everyone) state and federal lands when it comes to controlling hogs. A problem that was derrived BY TWRA when they released over 4000 wild hogs in South Cherokee and Catoosa WMA's. Now, I just learned that these same officials have hired a firm to do a phone survey asking the random public, many of whom most likely do not contribute to the funding of TWRA what their stance on the current bear management practices are. This is NOT Washington, California or Oregon states and sound biological studies done by certified personel with biology degrees need to be making these recommendations. NOT the public. And furthermore the sportsmen and woman of TN have over the last 7 years harvested over 400 bears with last year being the the record high. Why does something that is NOT broken need fixing???? Daryl Ratajczak from NEW YORK who is now over the big game management is the biggest snake in the grass TWRA has ever had. I believe that there needs to be a house cleaning in more than one area of ALL this and these elected peoples need to remember who it is that they actually work for. There is no accountability by many of these elected officals and it needs to end.

Knothead
02-20-2012, 11:14 AM
This is NOT Washington, California or Oregon states and sound biological studies done by certified personel with biology degrees need to be making these recommendations. NOT the public
As far back as can remember, the TWRA has requested comments and suggestions by the public for both hunting and fishing regulations. Go to www.tnwildlife.org (http://www.tnwildlife.org) to see when these are requested by the TWRA or call the Nashville office of TWRA. That doesn't eliminate the work of "certified" personnel.

buzzmcmanus
02-20-2012, 07:20 PM
Daryl Ratajczak from NEW YORK who is now over the big game management is the biggest snake in the grass TWRA has ever had


I don't know if I would go quite as far as saying he's the biggest biggest snake in the grass. But, I will say I wouldn't trust him any farther than I can throw him. And I'm not a very big guy to be throwing anyone.

I do agree with TWRA that someting had to be done about the hogs. They weren't spreading through natural progress and distribution. Instead, they were showing up around the state at random spots through illegal stocking. Who was doing this? and why? is not for me to be pointing fingers and I have no solution to the problem. But, what really gets to me is that TWRA and their Chief of Wildlife and Forestry, Daryl Ratajczak, has been preaching for years that the public comment period will be open through February for the following year's hunting regulations.

"TWRA Requests Public Input for 2012-13 Hunting Regulations
Released on Wed, Jan 18, 2012 - 1:18 pm under Wildlife Resources

NASHVILLE --- The Tennessee Wildlife Resources Agency is soliciting comments for its 2012-13 hunting seasons’ regulations. This is an opportunity for the public to share ideas and concerns about hunting regulations with TWRA staff.

Public comments will be considered by TWRA’s Wildlife Division staff and may be presented as proposals for regulation changes. Comments may be submitted by mail to: 2012-13 Hunting Season Comments, TWRA, Wildlife Management Division, P.O. 40747, Nashville, TN 37204 or emailed to twra.comment@tn.gov . Please include “Hunting Season Comments” on the subject line of emailed submissions.

The comment period concerning the 2012-13 hunting season regulations will be open until Friday, Feb. 24, 2012.
---TWRA---

Remember we welcome letters of support just as much as we do changes. "

However, last year when the public comment period rolled around, TWRC, says the hog regulations were already voted on the month before and they couldn't be reversed. IMO, they rammed this through because they knew if they waited until February, when they typically have all the hunters show up at the meetings, they would face a huge amount of opposition. If I remember correctly, he stated that all meetings are public, and we (all hunters) could have been there to comment, but none were. But, I don’t want the person that is supposed to be leading the way for sportsmen telling me that they are taking public comments through February, then when February rolls around have them tell me that they voted on it last month, and I really should have been there then. Makes me wonder what else he might run through TWRC while we have our backs turned.

As for bear hunting, TWRC made it painfully obvious to me 2 years ago that bowhunters were not wanted in TN to hunt bears. I do still hunt them for a day or two every year, but I’ve come to the realization that if I want to seriously hunt bears with a bow, I have to go out of state. I won’t go into this any further. I think I’ve posted enough of a rant already.

RuningWolf
04-25-2012, 11:54 PM
Dad (Cockeye Valdez) I don't agree with what the TWRA officals are sending up to the TWRC to vote upon. First we (me included) were shut out of OUR (everyone) state and federal lands when it comes to controlling hogs. A problem that was derrived BY TWRA when they released over 4000 wild hogs in South Cherokee and Catoosa WMA's. Now, I just learned that these same officials have hired a firm to do a phone survey asking the random public, many of whom most likely do not contribute to the funding of TWRA what their stance on the current bear management practices are. This is NOT Washington, California or Oregon states and sound biological studies done by certified personel with biology degrees need to be making these recommendations. NOT the public. And furthermore the sportsmen and woman of TN have over the last 7 years harvested over 400 bears with last year being the the record high. Why does something that is NOT broken need fixing???? Daryl Ratajczak from NEW YORK who is now over the big game management is the biggest snake in the grass TWRA has ever had. I believe that there needs to be a house cleaning in more than one area of ALL this and these elected peoples need to remember who it is that they actually work for. There is no accountability by many of these elected officals and it needs to end.

Wild hogs have been on the Plateau way before TWRA. They are a big problem in many areas and it is getting worse. Those below 100 lbs make excellent Barbeque any bigger they are Coyote bait