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Corbo
02-25-2012, 07:31 AM
What materials have you used (or experimented with) that are "off-beat, strange, weird, exotic or otherwise unique"?

I actually use "stim-u-dent" toothpicks from the drug store to make really cool and life like "bodies" for baitfish imitations, then I cover the toothpicks with floss and then cover with tube mylar or other tube material.

I also use craft cord for streamer bodies; both to cover the hook shank and also to build an under belly by tying it front and rear in a back & forth manner making several layer... (I use "flat craft cord for these).

Pictures of stim-u-dent here http://www.easttennesseefishing.com/index.php?showtopic=28070

Scroll through the text; at the very bottom is my bunny fly that I tried to describe in another post. It is on a size 4 kink shank (where bead is secured), has an Estaz body and bunny over the "top" on an inverted hook... deadly.

Heavynets
02-25-2012, 04:04 PM
I make poppers from McDonald's straws. I fill them with insulating foam. After it hardens I cut to length and insert a #8 kink-shank hook. I cover the exposed foam with epoxy or UV curing resin. Then proceed as usual.

http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv346/Heavynets/Mc%20Straw%20Popper/DSC00762.jpg

Knothead
02-25-2012, 05:36 PM
My son has a black Lab. I use leftover hair from past baths for dubbing. I call it the beadhead Hogan. I have tan hair from our mutt- Lucky's beadhead nymph. I use feathers I find in the backyard for tails on several flies or wrap them as a pheasant tail.

Corbo
02-25-2012, 08:08 PM
Heavynets; I like thepopper; is it messy to squirt foam into a straw? I'll bet one can of foam would fill a 100 straws... you probably have a lifetime supply.

Knothead... Our Chocolate Lab is named LUCKY and he's 14 years old; go figure? His fur is really soft; perhaps I ought to collect some dubbing from him as I don't hink he'll last this year.

I'm supposing dog hair doesn't naturally float.

MadisonBoats
02-25-2012, 08:41 PM
I concur with Knothead in using my dog - Dodger's fur. It is short and it chops and blends well with other dubbing.

The best wing material I have ever found is a Subway Sandwich Bag. One bag will last you years. Also; you can use a pencil and rub against it along a piece of wood to give it veins. Just cut a rectangular piece and slightly pull it apart until it stretches without breaking. Then; trim and tie in.

One of the neatest flies I found recently was a small alligator clip with a hook snaked through it. It was in a tackle box I found. It actually looked pretty enticing.

Then there are the bottle cap and rubberband lures the old guys use to make back in the days.

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I'm supposing dog hair doesn't naturally float.

Corbo, if you want it to float; put it in a baggy with a few drops of Rainex and mix well.

narcodog
02-25-2012, 09:57 PM
I use dental floss for the strips on Iso nymphs

Corbo
02-26-2012, 10:27 AM
Rainex, dentall floss, plastic bags, squirt foam straws etc. is a good start; I'll bet there are some here too afraid to post about what they use.

There is a thin foam material used by manufacturers when they box electronic stuff; it's ussually white or light green... I have used this for wing cases on floating nymphs tied on a wet hook.

Knothead
02-26-2012, 03:22 PM
I read a story about a couple of guys fishing in Canada for pike. They made lures out of an old teaspoon or tablespoon. Cut off the handle, drilled holes on each end, put split rings in them and a treble hook on the widest end.
Question- how many stop for roadkill?

kentuckytroutbum
02-26-2012, 05:13 PM
If its squirrel, I'll stop and take a look to assess the condition. Usually the tail is usable, but that depends.

Heavynets
02-27-2012, 12:02 AM
Believe it or not, about 5 years ago, while on my way home from a fly tying class I saw a peacock that had been hit by a car on the interstate. I immediately pulled over and gathered together the remains. I now have enought hurl to last a lifetime. There's nothing better than being at the right place at the right time.

Corbo
02-27-2012, 07:20 AM
I scored a red fox tail last year on Goose Gap Road outside P-forge.

Still living down the Reputation I got years ago when Paul Guernsey Was Editor of Fly Rod & Reel; he mentioned in his "Editor's Notes" how I stopped by his place one day and asked if he wanted a chunk of roadkill beaver.

He told me he didn't eat beaver; his loss.

This is what he had to say when I showed up with a squirrel.

http://www.flyrodreel.com/magazine/2004/april/warm-and-fuzzy

NDuncan
03-09-2012, 11:23 AM
My white shepherd provides me with an endless supply of parachute post material.....

http://i967.photobucket.com/albums/ae158/Nathan_Duncan/Flies/513a7b86-1.jpg


Not that he is always happy about it....


http://i967.photobucket.com/albums/ae158/Nathan_Duncan/Flies/f5bb4888.jpg

Mundele
03-15-2012, 05:16 PM
Saw a youtube link on using Gorilla Glue for foam bodies. It's pretty cool. You use the "fast cure" kind and mix it with a little water. Wait for it to foam and paint it onto the hook. Once it sets you can color it with markers. On the video a guy added GG foam to the hook, then palmered a hackle through it, Made a really neat buggy looking bug.

--Matt

BTW Your original link for those toothpicks or whatever is dead. Do I need some special permission to view it?

Corbo
03-15-2012, 07:48 PM
Actually it's a link to another forum and you must be a member to view it I spose..

If the pictures still exist in cyberland, photo bucket or somewhere in my computer I will see if my wife can post them here. I am computer challenged.... heck I cannot even figure how to program my very basic cell phone.

Mundele
03-15-2012, 11:56 PM
Corbo.. I joined that other forum. Thanks for the info. Those look awesome!! Do you ever weight them? I usually fish with floating line and have trouble getting streamers down.

What is that material you're using? the tube stuff?

--Matt

Corbo
03-16-2012, 06:38 AM
Matt;

On the toothpick streamers I use two different materials to coat the body; two part epoxy OR Softex.... the epoxy sinks faster but has a tendency to turn "amber" then brown over time if if left in a flybox in a dark closet. The softex won't turn color but is less heavy.

I've caught trout, landlocked salmon, SM bass and stripers on the toothpick streamers but always waited till spring to make a new batch due to discoloration of epoxy.

There are also different ways to make them with various woven tube materials.

I also make "cord body buuny flies" that are pretty cool and catch fish like mad; they too have eyes, a scally body but have the SEDUCTIVE addition of a bunny strip on the dorsal so they flutter down between strips.

If you want to go DEEP..... I have another fly that will do it and it's awesome... Maybe Danny, AKA Troutmanbrook, will report on their use/effectiveness as I just sent him a few.

Danny; mybe you read this and post a few pics of the flies I describe?

Perhaps I could try to tie a few of these flies in sequence with photo's and post them... unfortunately I seperated my shoulder last saturday and can barely use my left arm. Hard to do construction one armed; impossible to tie flies or fish... today I have to install a radon mitigation system; thank God I have a young guy (inexperienced) to operate my enormous concrete drill or I would be totally screwed.

Mundele
03-16-2012, 08:17 AM
Corbo: Sorry to hear about your injury. Shoulder pain isn't fun.

I'd love more info on those patterns. I fish near my work at ponds during my lunch hour and heavy, sinking flies tend to work better for me there.

I must have missed the epoxy part of the other writeup. Makes more sense now. I've been wanting to try that UV cure stuff... Clear Cure Goo. I wonder if it'd work well, and if it sinks.

--Matt

Corbo
03-16-2012, 05:03 PM
Matt;

Shoulder hurts but I manged through work anyway.

If you would like to try a unique fish catching streamer I'll mail you some to try out that will get down, ride hook point UP and seemingly look like nothing but they cath everything from trout to pike.

Call me with your address. 865-255-4840 If I can find some extra stim-u-dents I will toss them in the envelope... got too much tying stuff but I'll find them. Could also make the stim-u-dents onto a shank so you see what it looks like "bare". I use hard as nails on the thread wrapped body with criss-crossed thread and it reinforces everything.

When I cover stim-u-dent streamers with MYLAR tubing I often just coat with sally hansen and let dry... perlescent (sp) tubing works good if you can find it wide enough. If you tie the rear and then pull to the front it adapsts to the shap of the body.

They are fun to make but showing folks is much easier than photos. You can also put a dark bunny strip over the top.

I tie many of them on long shank stainless hooks too.

MadisonBoats
03-17-2012, 11:26 AM
Forgot to mention a simple one:

Extra-hot coffee in a sealed canning jar, a little salt, and a little vinegar will help tint most hackles for the 'ginger' color. Works good on your teeth as well.:frown:

troutmanbrook
03-23-2012, 02:44 PM
Matt;

I also make "cord body buuny flies" that are pretty cool and catch fish like mad; they too have eyes, a scally body but have the SEDUCTIVE addition of a bunny strip on the dorsal so they flutter down between strips.

If you want to go DEEP..... I have another fly that will do it and it's awesome... Maybe Danny, AKA Troutmanbrook, will report on their use/effectiveness as I just sent him a few.

Danny; mybe you read this and post a few pics of the flies I describe?


Sorry, not been active on the board in a few weeks, being the network admin for 6 major auto dealerships singlehandedly, is starting to take its toll on me.:eek: here are a few pics of the flies. I have caught a small LMbass on, i think, the green cyclops. I did get busted off with the other cord fly. I didn't want to change my leader (5x) and got a big fish on, and lost the fly and fish. hope the pics help.
http://i40.tinypic.com/zwdf1u.jpg

http://i43.tinypic.com/1610rp0.jpg

Corbo
03-25-2012, 12:55 PM
Mundelle/Matt:

Expect an envelope with various flies (like those in above picture) & materials to try. I tied a stimudent on a 10x long size 2 but usually tie them on shorter long shank hooks but I couldn't find any around at present time... must have used them all.

EZ body braid looks awesome on stimudents but is somewhat stiffer compared to tube mylar; sending both.

On cord body fly... you need to cover hook shank with cord and pop cord through hook eye and tie at front; then layer 4 times. wrap each layer with clear thread to hold layers and taper body... first layer starts at rear, last layer ends at rear. Apply bunny, then eyes then coat with Softex or epoxy with a bit worked under the bunny hide to adhere to covered shank.

DANNY, I will send you a couple replacements for fly you lost with 5x; want pictures of fish landed with 3x!