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Bugslinger
02-26-2013, 10:21 AM
I just started tying flies. I was wondering if I could use Antron yarn for hair wings like on a Royal Wullf. All I could find at Bass Pro was some craft hair and it looked a little sloppy when I used it. Thanks for any help or tips.

narcodog
02-26-2013, 10:24 AM
You bet you can use it.

David Knapp
02-26-2013, 10:44 AM
Try polypropylene yarn instead of Antron. The poly yarn floats better than the Antron... I use the poly yarn on just about all of my Parachute Adams as well as on some spinner patterns. Definitely easier than working with hair although a good hair wing just looks nice...

MadisonBoats
02-27-2013, 07:38 AM
I agree with David...

I try to always use poly for my my wings. However; I do mix in a few pieces of colored antron to add a variegated look.

Some of my favorite combinations are:


White poly with black antron pieces
Grey poly with green antron pieces
Grey poly with black antron pieces and a few crystal flash pieces.

Also; I like to flick a permanent marker through the ends of the wings to help define them.

Corbo
02-27-2013, 09:07 AM
Well; I use carded antron in white and two shades of dun and also tan & ginger. I prefer it to polypro which I think looks too FRIZZY and will definitely look too frizzy after it's been in your fly box for a while for some unknown reason.

Some people "loop" the materil around the hook to stand it up-right but I tie it down on top of the hook as a loop. For smaller flies you may need to cul out a bit of the material if you hitch it down by the loop method.

ANTRON & Zelon are heavy than water; they sink, polypro is lighter and floats... I have never seen floatability as an issue using anron as the hackle legs hold up the fly.

A HUGE advantage to parachutes is that they lay HARD COCKED into the film NOT ON TOP like traditional dries... this is where trout "want" to eat as the bug is more vulnerable stuck in the film. I apply a little floatant ABULENE (MAKE-UP REMOVER) to the hackle only.

Keep your wing post fairly short... too long and you defeat the purpose of the parachute concept and the fly may land on it's side or topple over when on the water.

I've been doing papachutes for at least 20 years and prefer them to shank spun hackled flies and they catch more fish... You might also find that ADDING a small tuft of SLF or a few strands of ZELON in leiu of a traditional tail turns your fly into a much more efficient fish catcher by giving the appearance of a trailing shuck.... a fly that is stuck on water but can't let go of it's shuck appears more vulnerable.

David Knapp
02-27-2013, 12:27 PM
I've been doing papachutes for at least 20 years and prefer them to shank spun hackled flies and they catch more fish... You might also find that ADDING a small tuft of SLF or a few strands of ZELON in leiu of a traditional tail turns your fly into a much more efficient fish catcher by giving the appearance of a trailing shuck.... a fly that is stuck on water but can't let go of it's shuck appears more vulnerable.

I'm with you on this one. I mostly use parachutes for all my dries including stoneflies. Just clip off the wing right above the hackle if you do not want the "mayfly" look.

Also, could you elaborate on the floatant you mentioned? This is a new one for me...

silvercreek
02-27-2013, 01:04 PM
I like calf body hair for wings on Wulffs. It can be a hassle and does add a lot of bulk to the hook shank, but it has the tapered tips that look right. Try some turkey flats bundled to make the wings. Turkey has the tapered look and is easier to manage. Works well for parachutes as well, although I usually go with poly for those posts. For spinner wings, I go with something more transparent like antron.

Corbo
02-27-2013, 11:02 PM
David; ABOLENE is sold in drug stores, it is make-up remover... big white jar with a dark blue lid. works wicked good. It looks white but it melts in your fingers... one jar will last a life time unless all your buddies take a dip. I just fill it into regular floatant bottles.

Click here: http://www.drugstore.com/products/prod.asp?pid=55331&aid=336064&aparam=albolene%20make%20up%20remover&scinit1=albolene%20make%20up%20remover (http://www.drugstore.com/products/prod.asp?pid=55331&aid=336064&aparam=albolene%20make%20up%20remover&scinit1=albolene%20make%20up%20remover)

MadisonBoats
02-28-2013, 07:53 AM
David; ABOLENE is sold in drug stores, it is make-up remover... big white jar with a dark blue lid. works wicked good. It looks white but it melts in your fingers... one jar will last a life time unless all your buddies take a dip. I just fill it into regular floatant bottles.

Click here: http://www.drugstore.com/products/prod.asp?pid=55331&aid=336064&aparam=albolene%20make%20up%20remover&scinit1=albolene%20make%20up%20remover

Richard,
You have been holding out on me. I have never heard of this use.

David Knapp
02-28-2013, 05:17 PM
David; ABOLENE is sold in drug stores, it is make-up remover... big white jar with a dark blue lid. works wicked good. It looks white but it melts in your fingers... one jar will last a life time unless all your buddies take a dip. I just fill it into regular floatant bottles.

Click here: http://www.drugstore.com/products/prod.asp?pid=55331&aid=336064&aparam=albolene%20make%20up%20remover&scinit1=albolene%20make%20up%20remover

Awesome! Thanks for the tip. I'll be looking into this one...

Corbo
02-28-2013, 08:13 PM
So sorry Shawn but now I know what to get you for your birthday; works good at removing make-up too; so if you date a chick that leaves you with skid marks you will be all set.

Will try to locate "the jah"

flyman
03-02-2013, 02:35 AM
I guess I just love hanging on to a few traditional things like hair wings. Calf tail isn't all that hard to work with and I like the looks of it so much better than yarn. I like calf tail for traditional wings and especially trudes. Nothing looks or floats better. Pick a calf tail with the longest straightest hair you can find. I like to wash mine and brush out the underfur before I cut and stack it for use.


http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i16/nepal_flyfishing_guru/DSCN0518.jpg

MadisonBoats
03-02-2013, 06:47 AM
Flyman,
That is a beautiful fly...Nice design and pattern!

kentuckytroutbum
03-02-2013, 11:41 AM
Flyman-

Thats an awesome fly! Would you mind sharing the receipe or an SBS?

Thanks

Bill

David Knapp
03-02-2013, 01:08 PM
Beautiful tie there Flyman. I used to enjoy tying and fishing Trudes but have got away from it in recent years. Thanks for the reminder. I think I'll tie a few up for this summer. Any other tips on working with calf hair? I just hate tying with it because its such a pain...