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HuskerFlyFisher
03-13-2013, 10:45 PM
Someone told me that the trout won't usually take a dry fly that's wet, and is below the surface. I'm a novice fisherman so excuse this if it's a dumb question.

Do trout bite a dry fly that you are fishing as a wet fly because you haven't kept it dry?

narcodog
03-13-2013, 11:07 PM
They will take it very often. Usually at end of the drift but many time you can pull a dry under and a fish will take. Especially if the fish are also taking emergers.

Oldman
03-14-2013, 06:48 AM
I have never caught a trout on a dry that sank. Of course I dont let my dries sink too often either. If my dry begins to start sinking I change flies rather quickly because I dont catch trout when they sink.

MadisonBoats
03-14-2013, 06:57 AM
:biggrin: They will eat them alive if you present it right!

Corbo
03-14-2013, 08:34 AM
Fly fishers tend to give trout far too much credit in terms of intelligence...

If it looks like food at a given moment trout will eat it

Our goal (or at least mine) is to fool fish with as few casts as possible; so fishing the correct "match the hatch" dry fly in "the wet zone" is not actually presenting what they seek to eat BELOW the film.

Happy "surprises" do happen though all the time as there is often no accounting for why trout eat something.... Personally I find that trout are very "picky" in terms of "hatching matching" ON the surface but willing to be less picky below the surface.... just look at the zillions of "nymph style" patterns on the internet.

My observation is that trout seek IMATATIVE BUGS on the surface and SUGGESTIVE BUGS Below the surface; todays trendy & "modern" nymph patterns look very little like "real bugs".

IMO when you consider BEADS, HOT SPOTS, SYNTHETICS, FLASH AND UNNATURAL COLORS USED ON NYMPHS BELOW THE SURFACE; fish SHOULDN'T EAT THEM, but they they do for some unknown reason.


Someday you will be dry fly fishing in a river with your line trailing out behind you in the current (and paying no attention), your fly will likely get swept under and be "trolling" down river so to speak and while you light your cigar a big fish will whack your fly even though all fly fishing "wisdom" says it should not happen...

You will play this fish to hand while your buddies watch and think you are a magnificent fly fisher and HOPE they didn't see the fish strike while you were paying no attention!

Good luck to you and ask all the "dumb" questions you want.

kentuckytroutbum
03-14-2013, 10:22 AM
Corbo-

Well said my friend! :biggrin:

Bill

NDuncan
03-14-2013, 10:45 AM
Someday you will be dry fly fishing in a river with your line trailing out behind you in the current (and paying no attention), your fly will likely get swept under and be "trolling" down river so to speak and while you light your cigar a big fish will whack your fly even though all fly fishing "wisdom" says it should not happen...


Yup. Happened to me and thought that I had just gotten hung up on something!

They hit dries that sink all the time! Sometimes I like to highstick a dry in a white frothy plunge pool, knowing it will get sucked under. Sometimes, a big guy will take it occasionally and if you keep the tension on it right - you'll be ready!

tnflyfisher
03-14-2013, 11:03 AM
If it looks like food at a given moment trout will eat it

Happy "surprises" do happen though all the time as there is often no accounting for why trout eat something

Someday you will be dry fly fishing in a river with your line trailing out behind you in the current (and paying no attention), your fly will likely get swept under and be "trolling" down river so to speak and while you light your cigar a big fish will whack your fly even though all fly fishing "wisdom" says it should not happen...


This, this and this...
All are spot on while the first point really explains the other two.

Of course a trout will potentially eat a drowned dry fly if it feels so inclined but I would focus on getting a good drag free drift first above all else. I have literally added shot to dry flies to get down to fish because that is all I had and guess what... they hit. Not ideal but presentation is key. If a dry turns into a wet but still looks like food... bingo! ;)


Tight Lines,

BlueRaiderFan
03-14-2013, 12:08 PM
If my dry sinks at the end of a drift, I strip it back like a steamer. Tiny strips of one to two inches. I make sure I alternate the number when I'm stripping... sometimes two sometimes one slow one sometimes four little ones... as long as it's not repetitive and unnatural looking. This can be very effective. So, the answer :smile:is yes they will!

flyman01
03-14-2013, 12:42 PM
When trout are eating caddis emergers, you see the fish leaping out of the water as they chase the caddis toward the surface. Caddis flies do not ride the surface as mayflies do; they jettison right through the surface and make for vegetation. When I am fishing a caddis dry pattern, I always let the bug swing under at the end of the drift and strip it back. After the bug has been dragged under it swings around and starts heading back toward the surface. On the upswing or as you are stripping it back, it appears to be a merger heading for the surface and some of the most aggressive strikes occur during this time. I have fished other patterns in this same fashion and have had good success getting strikes and catching fish. The only problem that arises is that the bug can absorb water and then you need to dry cast a few times to get it floating again. It is well worth the few dry casts, this technique catches fish. So yes, fish do eat dry fly's that become wet, you have been misinformed!

Dances with Trout
03-14-2013, 12:44 PM
I was fishing Watauga a couple of years ago and was using a different bwo and starting it dry and letting it go wet in some heavy water and caught a 20 rainbow. My best rainbow ever.

God Bless,
Dances with Trout

No Hackle
03-14-2013, 01:45 PM
Caught my very first trout on a sunkin parachute adams. Didnt know it then but it was about the time the quill gordons were coming off and this was typical for this mayfly. Also I fish an ant wet all the time and it works great. I think alot of things start on top and with all the currants ends up sunken.
Lynn

BlueRaiderFan
03-14-2013, 03:12 PM
I think alot of things start on top and with all the currants ends up sunken.




My life in one sentence!

whitefeather
03-14-2013, 06:43 PM
When trout are eating caddis emergers, you see the fish leaping out of the water as they chase the caddis toward the surface. Caddis flies do not ride the surface as mayflies do; they jettison right through the surface and make for vegetation. When I am fishing a caddis dry pattern, I always let the bug swing under at the end of the drift and strip it back. After the bug has been dragged under it swings around and starts heading back toward the surface. On the upswing or as you are stripping it back, it appears to be a merger heading for the surface and some of the most aggressive strikes occur during this time. I have fished other patterns in this same fashion and have had good success getting strikes and catching fish. The only problem that arises is that the bug can absorb water and then you need to dry cast a few times to get it floating again. It is well worth the few dry casts, this technique catches fish. So yes, fish do eat dry fly's that become wet, you have been misinformed!


So right you are my friend. I've even had rainbow clear the water and nail the fly while it was being false cast to dry it, where they wouldn't even examine it during the presentation.

On any given day, what works, catches fish. What doesn't wok, doesn't. Sometimes the "purism" fly fisherman practice is what defeats them for the day, but it's all about preserving the art form of fly fishing, lest it be lost forever. Most of the time the practice of "purism" gets results, sometimes it doesn't. Such is life.

I guess if any of us knew what trout "think", our days on the water would be fewer in number. Maybe not.

Paddlefish
03-16-2013, 10:42 PM
I can't speak for all waters ,but I think that I have caught fish on the Hiwassee on nearly every dry fly that I commonly use. Sometimes on accident. Mostly I will fish a dry as a dry about 90% of the time and wet about 10%. It does not suprise me that a caddis works under water, but I take a lot of fish on parachute adams, bwo's and sulphers. I have no respect for a trout that will take a parachute dry fly a wet fly, unless it is over 12 inches.

jeffnles1
03-20-2013, 03:46 PM
Someday you will be dry fly fishing in a river with your line trailing out behind you in the current (and paying no attention), your fly will likely get swept under and be "trolling" down river so to speak and while you light your cigar a big fish will whack your fly even though all fly fishing "wisdom" says it should not happen...

You will play this fish to hand while your buddies watch and think you are a magnificent fly fisher and HOPE they didn't see the fish strike while you were paying no attention!

Good luck to you and ask all the "dumb" questions you want.

Been there / done that. Unfortunately, I'm rarely lucky enough for one of my fishing partners to actually see me land the fish much less see the fish strike. :smile:

Jef

Corbo
03-20-2013, 05:34 PM
Blue Raider is wise to point out that dry flies do get swept under the film; particularly on a windy or blustery day.... Mayflies often get mashed back into the water and wet their wings and become the sought after "cripple" that is easy prey.

My prefered mayfly is a parachute with a sparse trailing shuck made of tri-lobal antron, SLF or Zelon..... they look more vulnerable than a full floating dun. I also like a trailing shuck on a CDC fly.

silvercreek
03-20-2013, 06:23 PM
I would imagine a lot of floating duns get drown in all the little plunge pools and a dun under water is fairly common trout food.

narcodog
03-20-2013, 07:21 PM
We went to the Chattooga last Friday and caught two and landed both by allowing my dry to drag under at the end of the drift.

RagingBull
03-24-2013, 09:54 PM
Great question and discussion. I have caught my two best trout on a drowned dry.