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flyred06
08-05-2013, 10:51 PM
I am looking at a steffan rod or a McFarland rod. I want one for medium size creek fishing for smallmouth and red eyes. Any thoughts on which one is better and what line size/length to go with? Any thoughts on Scott fiberglass rods also?

MadisonBoats
08-06-2013, 06:52 AM
I am looking at a steffan rod or a McFarland rod. I want one for medium size creek fishing for smallmouth and red eyes. Any thoughts on which one is better and what line size/length to go with? Any thoughts on Scott fiberglass rods also?

I thought you were needing some boat information...:rolleyes: If so; I was going to load you up...Have you thought about a graphite rod? I think you would be surprised by the results.

SmokyMt4runner
08-06-2013, 08:26 AM
Flyred- I recently had the opportunity to cast the Scott f2 6'6 3wt.

All i can say.....I am in love....It will be my next small stream stick. Butter smooth. I am primarily a small stream, dry fly type. So this rod fits me well.

With that being said, i am not sure its a great fit for a medium sized stream...but, i am sure a smallmouth would be a BLAST on it.

I like a slower rod though...fast graphite rods are not my thing, unless on a tailwater.

From what i can remember...i think the scotts go to an 8ft 5 wt.

Either way...i would cast before i purchased.

Hope this helps

Jim

narcodog
08-06-2013, 09:12 AM
With more and more folks going back to glass rods you should get some great input. try here http://fiberglassflyrodders.com

flyred06
08-06-2013, 09:16 AM
I thought you were needing some boat information...:rolleyes: If so; I was going to load you up...Have you thought about a graphite rod? I think you would be surprised by the results.


Shawn

I have around 12 graphite rods sage Scott Thomas and Thomas from 3wt to9 wt and 2 cane rods. I am just in the mood for something new and different. I get bored easily so I am always looking for new toys. That's how I ended up with saltwater Abel's and nautilus reels only never to go near the ocean lol.

I have heard a lot about the steffan rods and it just has my curiosity peaked for a new toy.

Troutman
08-06-2013, 12:11 PM
I've fished glass rods for several years now and have bought and sold many trying to find the perfect fit for me. I haven't owned a mcfarland or Steffen rod but they are considered the best. As mentioned , fiberglass flyrodders forum has everything you want to know about glass rods and you might want to follow Cameron's blog the Fiberglas Manifesto. Most glass are pretty slow , so some will be better than others for throwing smallies flies. I really like the old 1970s models Fenwick Feralites for poppers and streamers over the earlier year models because the action is better suited. The lami glass rods are super slow and have a hard time casting anything more than a dry fly unless you get the shorter stiffer action. Just like the boo rods, cast them first if you can. There are a lot of new glass rods to choose from now. I'm pretty excited about the new glass Orvis rods coming out soon!

bmadd
08-06-2013, 03:13 PM
Check out both of those sites for sure. You'll be able to find lots of reviews to help you decide on which action you think will fit you best. I would think something in 8'-8'6" 5/6 would fit the bill.

MadisonBoats
08-07-2013, 06:59 AM
Shawn

I have around 12 graphite rods sage Scott Thomas and Thomas from 3wt to9 wt and 2 cane rods. I am just in the mood for something new and different. I get bored easily so I am always looking for new toys. That's how I ended up with saltwater Abel's and nautilus reels only never to go near the ocean lol.

I have heard a lot about the steffan rods and it just has my curiosity peaked for a new toy.

Excellent! That is what its all about! Learning and trying new things!

flyred06
08-09-2013, 11:38 PM
well I have a update on the search for glass. today i went to a fly shop and found 3 old fenwick glass rods. they are in absolutely prestine shape. they appear to never have had a reel put on them before today. they were out of a personal collection where the collector died and his widow sold the rods. they are in their origonal plaid sock and tubes. i bought a 7 ft 6weight and a 8 ft 7wt. these rods cast like a dream. my question is this, should i fish them or put them in my collection. i really like how they feel and look but a rod not fished is like a car not driven. what are some of you guys thought. collect or fish?

MadisonBoats
08-10-2013, 05:09 AM
well I have a update on the search for glass. today i went to a fly shop and found 3 old fenwick glass rods. they are in absolutely prestine shape. they appear to never have had a reel put on them before today. they were out of a personal collection where the collector died and his widow sold the rods. they are in their origonal plaid sock and tubes. i bought a 7 ft 6weight and a 8 ft 7wt. these rods cast like a dream. my question is this, should i fish them or put them in my collection. i really like how they feel and look but a rod not fished is like a car not driven. what are some of you guys thought. collect or fish?

I believe I would fish them and treat them with a little extra TLC when storing them, etc. It sounds like they have good history and why not add to it...

One note; keep them out of direct sunlight as much as possible when not using them. The UV rays are most damaging on resin based material.

I personally love nostalgic rods and gear. My first find was a Shakespeare Wonderod and that rod would sling a fly. Gave it to a friend as a birthday gift because he admired it so much.
http://antiquerodandreels.com/mfg_s/images/wonderod_1240_main.jpg

flyred06
08-10-2013, 03:59 PM
shawn thanks for vote to fish. very nice rod you posted also. i am a sucker for nostalgia.

bmadd
08-12-2013, 12:39 PM
I would fish it as well. If you want to relive any doubt, the Fiberglass Flyrodders website has a wiki that can tell you more about the rods you have specifically and you could always post and find out if they are rare or anything. I know alot of people on that site love the old Fenwicks to fish though. What was the 3rd model you passed on?

flyred06
08-12-2013, 05:35 PM
It was a 9 ft 8 wt. it was just to heavy and big. I didn't like how it cast. I once was on fiberglass flyrodders but do not remember my user name and pass word. I have been reading a lot of post on there and find them all very interesting.

bmadd
08-13-2013, 12:19 AM
I don't blame you there. I think I would have passed on it also. I think that 7' 6 would be a nice stick for what you're wanting.

flyred06
08-13-2013, 10:45 AM
I have a old 4 wt 8 ft diamond glass rod that I broke. I got to send it back sometime

bmadd
08-13-2013, 12:59 PM
A nice trio of glass sizes once the 4 wt is fixed.

My glass lineup consists of a 7' 3 wt Lamiglass honey, a hand me down 8'6" Horrocks-Ibbotson tobacco glass "frankensteit" that I'm currently refurbishing, and two EC Featherlights that I use as beaters. One 6'6" 5 wt and one 8' 7wt. Great low cost rods that you can beat around canoes and jon boats in that are a lot of fun to fish.

flyred06
08-13-2013, 10:05 PM
Checked today on sending the diamond glass rod back and they said they would have to just do a swap out for a new rod as they don't have the old blanks anymore so I went by a local shop in central Tenn and looked at one of the new blue blank glass rods in the same size. Very nice rods. I hope to get mine sent back this week.

Trico
08-14-2013, 05:55 PM
For anyone interested in why anyone would want a fiberglass rod you may wish to go to the web site for Tom Morgan Rodsmiths at www.troutrods.com (http://www.troutrods.com) and go to the section regarding tom organ's fiberglass rods. It makes for interesting reading. In fact Tom Morgan's thoughts on fly rods in general makes for interesting reading.

flyred06
08-14-2013, 06:28 PM
For anyone interested in why anyone would want a fiberglass rod you may wish to go to the web site for Tom Morgan Rodsmiths at www.troutrods.com (http://www.troutrods.com) and go to the section regarding tom organ's fiberglass rods. It makes for interesting reading. In fact Tom Morgan's thoughts on fly rods in general makes for interesting reading.


thanks trico. there is becoming a resurgance for fiberglass. several rod companies are coming out with glass rods this year.