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HuskerFlyFisher
08-25-2013, 11:23 PM
Guys, are dropper rigs the most effective way to fish right now?

What do you on top?

On bottom? How deep typically?

Greenie weenie on bottom, Caddis on top?

Where's the best prospect (and strategy) for a big brown?

Thanks guys!!

NDuncan
08-26-2013, 12:29 AM
Today almost all of the 25 I caught were On the dropper. (Pink weenie) only caught 2 or 3 on the dry. Now that having been said. All of the rainbows were on the dropper and only Brookies were hitting the dry (but they hit the dropper too)

chechem
08-26-2013, 06:37 AM
Last week I caught every one (~20) on a #14 Bead-head Prince or a #14 Black Wooly (sometimes with a split shot in DEEP pools).

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg201/Chechem_2008/eeb24ebc-66ce-41b0-a9e2-50f71c437768_zpsc651a0ad.jpg

Mundele
08-26-2013, 05:40 PM
Sure is a pretty thing.... Do you dead-drift that wooly bugger, or strip it like a streamer?

Float On
08-26-2013, 05:58 PM
I'm still running the Never-Sink (yellow) on top and either a barbie bug / green winnie or san juan as a dropper. I always run the dry if I'm in brookie areas. I've been getting so much action on the dropper that I'm thinking this weekend I might see what happens running a double wet setup.

Float On
08-26-2013, 06:13 PM
As for the big brown strategy. I was with Brownie this past weekend when he caught that big brown. Check out his post. We really got lucky and saw that one sitting on the bottom.

As for depth... I was dragging across the rocks at the bottom with my dropper and it seemed to work out. I did see some fish sitting subsurface eating emergers I think, so it might be worth your time to try that pattern if you see them like that.

I'm no expert on hatches and for the most part I can barely identify what's what flying around. We saw some little flies (black head, white body, black tail end) flying up and down. Brownie told me what they were but I can't remember the name. Not even sure if the fish were keying in on that hatch. Hopefully he will read this thread and be able to tell you what they were.

I'll be running around up there most of this coming holiday weekend. I'm doing more brown scouting. If you see a little black honda accord sitting on the road side, stop in and say hello.

Brownie
08-26-2013, 07:07 PM
Guys, are dropper rigs the most effective way to fish right now?

What do you on top?

On bottom? How deep typically?

Greenie weenie on bottom, Caddis on top?

Where's the best prospect (and strategy) for a big brown?

Thanks guys!!

Best strategy for Big Browns is first finding one to sight fish to or knowing what undercut he lives in , in PA where I was before I moved here we would walk around for hours just looking for them and sometimes never even cast.

Other option is throwing a big streamer in a pool that you know contains a brown at dawn or dusk or waiting until the river is colored and again fishing the undercuts or eddies. It is usually a lot of work for not many fish but once you get to know a river then your chances increase as you at least know which areas hold them, that is what I am trying to learn here or you just get lucky and find one out in the open in the middle of a hot August day and give them something they want LOL.

I just started a post on Tricos which were mating up and down the Little River on Saturday , size 22-24 black and white females , all black males.

chechem
08-26-2013, 07:42 PM
Sure is a pretty thing.... Do you dead-drift that wooly bugger, or strip it like a streamer?
Depends on the pool, current, etc.
Strip slowly in calmer areas, but across the current just the drift with the current is enough (no splitshot in that case). SLOWLY.
I fish it like a saltwater jig in deep pools (with a splitshot; sometimes 6" above the Wooly, sometimes tight against it).

BlueRaiderFan
08-26-2013, 09:44 PM
I saw a lot of sub surface feeding today and very little on top. Not much luck on the double nymph rig but the bugger did ok.

Rog 1
08-27-2013, 09:56 AM
All very good information posted on this issue....from now until end of October don't be afraid to think "big" terrestrials...sometimes this will trigger some great top water action even during the quiet times during the middle of the day...I love tossing a big PMX in yellow or orange....sometimes these trout will hit these like a bream going after a popper...can be a lot of fun

HuskerFlyFisher
08-27-2013, 10:56 AM
Thank you guys! We are at DFW airport heading that way - I have a cabin on a large stretch of Cosby Creek a couple miles below the park, so we have a quarter mile of so of that to fish. Some stockers and wilds mixed together.

I'll be sure to let everyone know how I come out.

I love this forum - I've learned so much. Until a year ago I didn't even know what a dropper rig was.

I've fished countless times with a dry fly and gone the whole day with only a bite or two. A friend of mine told me "Do you want to catch fish, or just fish?"

I said catch fish of course, and he said "OK, you do realize that 90% of a trout's feeding is below the surface? Start fishing below the surface if you want to catch a lot more fish."

Great advice!!

Magoo
08-27-2013, 11:07 AM
I live in Cosby- give me a shout if you'd like to meet up.

I can say that locally the topwater bite has been good enough to keep me from "having" to go subsurface.

If, for whatever reason, the bite is really off while you're here you could come over to my place and yank some crappie out of the pond.

HuskerFlyFisher
08-27-2013, 11:31 AM
I live in Cosby- give me a shout if you'd like to meet up.

I can say that locally the topwater bite has been good enough to keep me from "having" to go subsurface.

If, for whatever reason, the bite is really off while you're here you could come over to my place and yank some crappie out of the pond.

haha, thank you! I LOVE Cosby. Best kept secret in the Smokies. I just bought two more cabins there on CC for an investment - two loggers right there on the Creek! We are going out to check them out and see what all we need to buy for them.

I've sometimes wondered if Cosby Creek (down lower below GSMNP) would support brown trout - there are sure some deep holes.

You probably know about the fishing hole on Cosby Creek where they guy has all of the old cars...the owner let us fish there once and were pulling out rainbows from 15 to 20 inches. :biggrin:

They didn't take a fly though - we had to put a little "persuasion" on there to get any action.

Magoo
08-27-2013, 01:56 PM
Yep, I know the spot. I love his sign to the effect "Nothing is for sale". All of this crap is mine-all-mine.

We only moved here at the beginning of the year so I haven't explored a whole lot yet with home repairs and the like taking a lot of effort. I think I've only fished outside of the park a handful of times. The stockers, while (much) bigger just aren't as much fun for me. We live about a mile from the creek so I don't exactly have backyard access anyway and don't yet know anyone in the area.

I'd guess that the upper and middle sections of the creek would support browns but I'd be surprised if they could survive the local kill and grill community.

Congrats on the two new places. It sounds like you're a good ways upstream from us. We're down near the Front Porch and Janice's.

BTW: The Front Porch is running a buffet all day on Saturday with live entertainment. It's not the same as I hear it used to be, but they are doing a pretty good job and have some good dishes. Their baked beans alone are worth stopping in.

HuskerFlyFisher
08-27-2013, 10:31 PM
Yep, I know the spot. I love his sign to the effect "Nothing is for sale". All of this crap is mine-all-mine.

We only moved here at the beginning of the year so I haven't explored a whole lot yet with home repairs and the like taking a lot of effort. I think I've only fished outside of the park a handful of times. The stockers, while (much) bigger just aren't as much fun for me. We live about a mile from the creek so I don't exactly have backyard access anyway and don't yet know anyone in the area.

I'd guess that the upper and middle sections of the creek would support browns but I'd be surprised if they could survive the local kill and grill community.

Congrats on the two new places. It sounds like you're a good ways upstream from us. We're down near the Front Porch and Janice's.

BTW: The Front Porch is running a buffet all day on Saturday with live entertainment. It's not the same as I hear it used to be, but they are doing a pretty good job and have some good dishes. Their baked beans alone are worth stopping in.

Good to know! Yes here is a link to our cabins:

www.cabinonriversedge.com
www.cabinonroaringfork.com

So the folks around here tend to eat everything out of the creeks? We had a homeowner today flat out get angry with us because we were fishing in front of his house. I told him "Russ, this is Collin --- you know --- from Texas".

He said "I don't care who you are...get out of here!"

We weren't even on his land. I felt bad for my dad - he is elderly and has dementia and it kind of scared him - he just wanted to fish a little and would never hurt anyone. I don't know that he's ever kept a fish - he always turns them back, even the stockers.