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Rockyraccoon
09-19-2013, 09:47 AM
Where are all the striper guys at?

Over the last few weeks I've noticed more and more stripers moving up higher and higher on the Clinch River than ever before. Over the years I've seen some large schools here and there but all of a sudden I'm seeing small trout death squads moving and killing trout.

Last week we had three trout on the line that were taken away from us by stripers and countless others that had stripers chasing them while we were bringing them in.

On Monday, it was like watching trout rise. As we drifted down river we watched stripers rolling and thrashing everywhere. Just like trout rising to a hatch.

It was a little concerning to say the least. I know we've had stripers migrating up river for a long time now....but I've never seen them this thick or voracious. Where are the striper killers at these days. :-/

Sandman
09-19-2013, 10:23 AM
I've heard about them moving up but have never seen them. Where have you noticed them on the clinch?

Grannyknot
09-19-2013, 10:33 AM
The striper guys are out and about. Unless you are fishing the high water (2 gens) early in the morning, you probably won't see them.

I've been with them recently, and can post some pictures of absolute monsters that were taken from the river if it eases your mind.

David Knapp
09-19-2013, 01:25 PM
I've been with them recently, and can post some pictures of absolute monsters that were taken from the river if it eases your mind.

Not worried about peace of mind, but pictures of monster stripers? Yes please!!! :cool: I miss chasing the stripers this time of year. Glad someone is having fun...

Grannyknot
09-19-2013, 01:39 PM
Just to clarify, they weren't taken on fly rods.
I'll see if I can find some camera phone shots.

Breck
09-19-2013, 08:07 PM
Granny,

would love to see some striper pics.

Breck

ChemEAngler
09-19-2013, 10:01 PM
Granny,

would love to see some striper pics.

Breck

Hang on now guys, I don't think that kind of stuff is allowed on the board! Oh wait, you said striper pics, not stripper pics.

Rockyraccoon
09-19-2013, 10:16 PM
I saw them in every pool that had at least 3 foot of water from Massengill Bridge to Hwy 61.

They can be caught on low water using the same gear tactics as high water....and a solid 8 - 10 weight fly rod could do it too. Use large (8" -10" flies).

o2bfishin
09-19-2013, 10:37 PM
Over the last few weeks I've noticed more and more stripers moving up higher and higher on the Clinch River than ever before. Over the years I've seen some large schools here and there but all of a sudden I'm seeing small trout death squads moving and killing trout...

...On Monday, it was like watching trout rise. As we drifted down river we watched stripers rolling and thrashing everywhere. Just like trout rising to a hatch.


About two weeks ago, we saw the same kind of activity between Peach Orchard and the bridge. We were catching a few rainbows, including a couple of nice fish, on wooly buggers and BPHTs, but we were also surprised at how many “wolf packs” of 3 or more stripers we saw cruising in very shallow water. A few minutes after having a group of three large fish come within oar’s length of the boat before spooking, I caught a 12’ stocker, which we decided was the perfect size for striper bait. We rigged it on a bait caster with a balloon and let it swim down stream. Soon after, we saw the group of three heading in the direction of the bait.

After a few more minutes, the balloon started moving around nervously. The little trout went airborne trying to escape, but was followed by a huge wake. The fight was on. About 15 or 20 minutes later, I finally brought this 40 lb., 44 inch monster to the boat.

http://littleriveroutfitters.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=119&pictureid=798

http://littleriveroutfitters.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=119&pictureid=802

http://littleriveroutfitters.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=119&pictureid=799

http://littleriveroutfitters.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=119&pictureid=800

http://littleriveroutfitters.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=119&pictureid=801

Who knew that saving the lives of trout (expect the one used as bait, of course) would be so much fun?:biggrin:

David Knapp
09-20-2013, 12:18 AM
Now that's what I'm talking about right there! Great fish!!!

Grannyknot
09-20-2013, 08:38 AM
Here's one I found from earlier this summer.
Its not me, its a buddy of mine, hence the disguise to protect the innocent....since most think striper fishermen are scum of the earth.

MadisonBoats
09-20-2013, 09:54 AM
About two weeks ago, we saw the same kind of activity between Peach Orchard and the bridge. We were catching a few rainbows, including a couple of nice fish, on wooly buggers and BPHTs, but we were also surprised at how many “wolf packs” of 3 or more stripers we saw cruising in very shallow water. A few minutes after having a group of three large fish come within oar’s length of the boat before spooking, I caught a 12’ stocker, which we decided was the perfect size for striper bait. We rigged it on a bait caster with a balloon and let it swim down stream. Soon after, we saw the group of three heading in the direction of the bait.

After a few more minutes, the balloon started moving around nervously. The little trout went airborne trying to escape, but was followed by a huge wake. The fight was on. About 15 or 20 minutes later, I finally brought this 40 lb., 44 inch monster to the boat.

Who knew that saving the lives of trout (expect the one used as bait, of course) would be so much fun?:biggrin:

I am going to have to get out there with the Dr. and learn to striper fish. Nice fish and good job landing! I have yet to land a striper on a fly rod. I will have to give it a try this weekend if the crew cooperates.:smile:

Here's one I found from earlier this summer.
Its not me, its a buddy of mine, hence the disguise to protect the innocent....since most think striper fishermen are scum of the earth.

Man, that is a huge fish! I could imagine your arms were exhausted after landing that monster.

o2bfishin
09-20-2013, 10:49 PM
Like Grannyknot said in his post, for the record, this fish was not caught on the fly. It was hard enough getting it in with a bait caster. I can't even imagine landing one like that on a fly rod!

Corbo
10-22-2013, 07:42 AM
Okay;

Corbo is late to this striper party! Has anyone any idea if they are still around?

Wilson10
08-11-2014, 05:16 PM
I've been seeing several stripers caught around peach orchard over the last few weeks.

Joe Congleton
08-11-2014, 05:55 PM
They are as thick this year as when Rocky posted this earlier…right in the hole at Peach orchard ramp several are in the forty to perhaps fifty pound range. I have called all the striper guys l know and begged them to come up there and work them over. I have seen them bust trout throughout the entire length of the river from 75 bridge down. Somebody put a come and gettum post on Tndeer Forum and a bunch of folks came fishing for them but there are still hundreds or more there.

fourx
08-15-2014, 11:36 AM
The lower Clinch has been fishing bad for the last 2yrs.
IMO-The stripers are the primary culprit.
The lower Soho is fishing poorly as well.
Sadly, gone are the glory days us old- timers once knew.

4X

Wilson10
08-18-2014, 01:54 PM
The lower Clinch has been fishing bad for the last 2yrs.
IMO-The stripers are the primary culprit.
The lower Soho is fishing poorly as well.
Sadly, gone are the glory days us old- timers once knew.

4X

YES, Lower clinch hasn't been the "good" since 2010-11 IMO
YES
YES

Its sad, I didn't know that about the South Holston. Wonder what it'll take for them to admit its a problem and actually do something?
TU - clinch river doesn't think its affecting Trout much at all last time I asked them. I was told that the amount of stocked trout far surpasses the amount taken by stripers and that trout fisherman wouldn't really notice a difference. I disagree and feel its certainly gotten worse of the past couple years. I'm sure there are some other variables in this equation, but like 4x stated I feel the Stripers are the main culprit. If anyone here is heavily active in the Clinch chapter of TU feel free to offer opinions.

Thanks


FWIW - I do have friends that are targetting them and I encourage them to KILL em ALL :)

ChemEAngler
08-18-2014, 10:00 PM
I think we should have a dedicated river cleanup weekend where all concerned trout fisherman try to catch and keep/kill their limit of stripers... I am seriously contemplating going to my traditional trout waters (which also have been down the past two years) and trying to eliminate some of those wolves from the food chain!

Wilson10
08-19-2014, 04:56 PM
I think we should have a dedicated river cleanup weekend where all concerned trout fisherman try to catch and keep/kill their limit of stripers... I am seriously contemplating going to my traditional trout waters (which also have been down the past two years) and trying to eliminate some of those wolves from the food chain!


Travis,

Just let me know when you wanna go. Give me a call :biggrin:

flyphish
09-08-2014, 11:26 AM
Never fished the Clinch for stripers but looks like im heading up there this week. Stripers are awesome! 10wt and giant rainbow deceiver. Ill fight a 40lb beast over a 12in stocker any day of the week!

flyphish
09-08-2014, 11:47 AM
Do you need a boat/ are they catching them on generation @ Peach Orchard?

MadisonBoats
09-08-2014, 12:24 PM
Yes, you will need a boat to target the stripers on the Clinch and having a nice motor would not hurt for resetting your runs.

Joe Congleton
09-08-2014, 01:52 PM
to further Shawns comments, a boat is essential. Never heard of anybody catching one wading unless the striper ate the 12 in stocker trout on your line. The hole directly in front of the Peach Orchard ramp has held big stripers all summer. Also the first hole under the I-75 bridge, the second hole below Cane Creek , the mile of water from Llewellyn Island upstream , and the two hundred yards above Clinton Hwy 61 bridge.

Please take some home.

flyphish
09-08-2014, 03:42 PM
Thanks for the advice. I love trout as much as the next guy but have really had a blast catching larger species like musky and striper in recent years.

MadisonBoats
09-08-2014, 07:30 PM
Like Joe stated, please try and take some...I think they are thriving too well in the Clinch Tailwater and they need to be thinned out ASAP. I have never caught one. But, I have chased them all around trying and gave up for a while. My boat did have a close call on one. My buddy had a 17" rainbow on fly rod about two-months ago below the power lines (above PO) right after the water started rising and a huge striper slowly came up to it right beside the boat and tried to swallow it. Not quickly; but very slow like a whale. It did not scare from us until I beat the water with a neat to run it off as to not break his rod. I have it on video, but, it does not show due to the refraction of the sun.:frown:

I think your easiest/best time to get them on a fly rod is in the water up-flow transition.-IMO Otherwise, it seems the fish mongers that cut up trout and park on the boat ramps have the best luck. But, that is not what I support...

waterwolf
09-08-2014, 07:32 PM
Floated yesterday and saw zero stripers with the water off, maybe they're all dead, but I'd say they're beginning their retreat back downstream.

It's like the in laws coming for Christmas each year, only worse. At least the in laws don't kill your children and pets, at least not intentionally

robbcoats
09-08-2014, 10:59 PM
I think that on the Soho and wautaga the stripers are further up the river than normal because of the main lake water temps with less water being ran earlier this year they have moved up to follow the shad and cooler water temps. As far as eating too many trout Im doubltful on these two rivers that they make a huge impact.

MadisonBoats
09-09-2014, 06:37 AM
Floated yesterday and saw zero stripers with the water off, maybe they're all dead, but I'd say they're beginning their retreat back downstream.

It's like the in laws coming for Christmas each year, only worse. At least the in laws don't kill your children and pets, at least not intentionally

Jim,
I spooked a few Saturday while navigating the milkshake from Rocky Top. Do you think the cloudy water conditions pushed the bulk of the striper schools down river?

This was the view from PO boat ramp last Saturday.
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Joe Congleton
09-09-2014, 07:47 AM
As to water color -fwiw : A couple of weeks ago l saw picture of a huge striper that Alex Quick or his friend caught at P> O> on a large rainbow streamer in water color exactly the color portrayed in Shawns picture. Have personally seen stripers chasing trout several times within the last week. Also,RobbC as to Watuaga/South Holston, lm assuming there are shad in those rivers from your comments, but personally l have not seen a shad in the Norris tailwater in several years, maybe decades . The Norris tailwater stripers are there to eat the trout;and they are efficient in their quest to say the least.. ...

waterwolf
09-09-2014, 08:38 AM
The mud water won't push them out and usually makes the larger predatory fish much more active. The stripers usually retreat back down stream about this time of year for some reason, not to mention a bunch of them are dead thankfully.

Like I said I saw zero from PO to 61 on Sunday, zero! They're a problem during their short seasonal runs upstream, but luckily they don't stay year round.

I feel a lot of death we see on the river gets blamed on them, when in reality it's its big browns right now. A month ago it was stripers probably, but the big browns certainly open up a can on the smaller trout as well.

I despise the stripers and gleefully kill everyone I can, but right now their not a threat.

Grannyknot
09-09-2014, 08:54 AM
As to water color -fwiw : A couple of weeks ago l saw picture of a huge striper that Alex Quick or his friend caught at P> O> on a large rainbow streamer in water color exactly the color portrayed in Shawns picture. Have personally seen stripers chasing trout several times within the last week. Also,RobbC as to Watuaga/South Holston, lm assuming there are shad in those rivers from your comments, but personally l have not seen a shad in the Norris tailwater in several years, maybe decades . The Norris tailwater stripers are there to eat the trout;and they are efficient in their quest to say the least.. ...

For what its worth, there is a good population of very large shad in melton hill, stretching well upstream, all the way to the eagle bend. Many people actually go there to net them for bait tanks to be used on the lakes. I've got no clue why the stripers don't stay downstream feeding on them, but I'd assume it requires less effort to chow down on a recently stocked fish.

buzzmcmanus
09-09-2014, 09:56 AM
I float on Sunday and we seen plenty of stripers at the mouth of Coal Creek. Coal Creek looked like a chocolate milkshake pouring into the Clinch, but it didn't stop these guys from catching fish. We just happened to be floating by when one of them was holding a fish up. They were beached in the mouth of Coal Creek and fishing trout in the stained water.

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waterwolf
09-09-2014, 09:59 AM
Hopefully it's dead

buzzmcmanus
09-09-2014, 10:14 AM
Hopefully it's dead
I heard a loud splash as we floated under the bridge and out of sight. Hopefully it was just the big boy falling in and not the fish being released. I also hope he safely swam back to shore to get back in the boat. But, I have a feeling that was not the case.

robbcoats
09-11-2014, 11:08 PM
Do you not get any shad through the turbines on generation during the draw down for the soho it creates a special time

Joe Congleton
09-12-2014, 07:13 PM
There are shad in Norris Lake and shad in Melton hIll but in probably the last ten years of a lot of fishing in the Clinch l haven't seen any shad above Llewellyn Island in the river. Based on the number of stripers around 61 bridge l would doubt many shad migrants up in to the Clinch make it out of Melton Hill. Saw them a lot more shad in the entire Clinch tailwater and in assorted sizes frequently in forty years before the last ten years.

Shad through the dam turbines does happen from Norris Dam and it is indeed a supercharged protein load for the fish down river.

Rockyraccoon
09-20-2014, 09:04 PM
Like I said I saw zero from PO to 61 on Sunday, zero! They're a problem during their short seasonal runs upstream, but luckily they don't stay year round.

I feel a lot of death we see on the river gets blamed on them, when in reality it's its big browns right now. A month ago it was stripers probably, but the big browns certainly open up a can on the smaller trout as well.

I despise the stripers and gleefully kill everyone I can, but right now their not a threat.

They're still there in large numbers in the deep hole down from C.C.

Seen them every day this week.

I'm also still seeing some roamers here and there. I haven't looked in any of the deeper holes down river but I imagine they're still there too.