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lostnwilderness
09-21-2013, 02:19 PM
I don't post on here a lot but am friends with a number of yall. I have a buddy who is a newbie and the other day after fishing over beverages he posed a question to me, "What is the best flies for fall trout? Specifically Browns and Specks?" It kind of caught me off guard because I had never really thought about how much my "working box" and my technique changes this time of year but he picked up on it and asked. So I pose this question to the years of experience on this board,

"What is the best flies for fall trout? Specifically Browns and Specks?"

fearnofishbob
09-21-2013, 02:48 PM
October Caddis is one of my favorites......

flyman01
09-21-2013, 05:27 PM
Second the Caddis- size #22 tan body- lethal!

NDuncan
09-21-2013, 09:08 PM
This one works well for me

http://i967.photobucket.com/albums/ae158/Nathan_Duncan/Favfly.jpg

flyman01
09-22-2013, 09:19 AM
This one works well for me

http://i967.photobucket.com/albums/ae158/Nathan_Duncan/Favfly.jpg


Is that a #14 Garden Hackle?

nymfman
09-22-2013, 09:04 PM
14-18 size Bead head pheasant tail 18 inches under a size 14-16 orange stimulator

flyman
09-22-2013, 09:45 PM
My ace in the hole:biggrin:http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i16/nepal_flyfishing_guru/IMGP0011_2.jpg (http://s68.photobucket.com/user/nepal_flyfishing_guru/media/IMGP0011_2.jpg.html)

The-Sasquatch
09-23-2013, 08:30 AM
In all seriousness, I'm going to assume that the Smokies aren't terribly different from PA, and judging from the info I got in prepping for my October trip from you guys ('you guys' is Yank for 'y'all'), it really isn't too different. I fish October Caddis a lot in late Sept/October. It's basically an EHC, size 14-10, tied w/ an orange body. I've been told this will work well! Big terrestials as well, and since the orange caddis works, you probably won't go wrong with orange stimies!

In the Fall I usually fish w/ a dropper too. That may be different from down there. Here, on our limestoners I drop and olive or tan scud, size 14-16, or a golden stonefly size 14-16. I've also had some success w/ a PT nymph, but that's a year round staple, I believe.

In another thread, we talked about messing around w/ orange soft hackles. I plan on giving that a try. I like soft hackles and like to trail them off dries more than I like to trail nymphs. From what I understand, the October Caddis as an actual hatch is more of a sub surface game than a top water fly.

NDuncan
09-23-2013, 10:21 AM
My ace in the hole:biggrin:http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i16/nepal_flyfishing_guru/IMGP0011_2.jpg (http://s68.photobucket.com/user/nepal_flyfishing_guru/media/IMGP0011_2.jpg.html)

at least your container is biodegradable for when it gets left on the bank...:biggrin:

buzzmcmanus
09-23-2013, 01:43 PM
I fish October Caddis a lot in late Sept/October. It's basically an EHC, size 14-10, tied w/ an orange body.

I use a size 14 EHC in orange year round. It's my go to fly.

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u51/buzzmcmanus/2013%20Fishing/8-11-2013/P1010132_zpsba38a71e.jpg (http://s165.photobucket.com/user/buzzmcmanus/media/2013%20Fishing/8-11-2013/P1010132_zpsba38a71e.jpg.html)

Rob Johnson
09-26-2013, 09:44 PM
I will second the orange EHC size 14. Black or tan body as well. Definitely a killer.

bigsur
09-27-2013, 12:07 PM
Not sure about the future, but can say for certain from 5:00 to 6:15 last night in the Smokies the green weenie was the soup of the day!:biggrin:

Oldman
09-27-2013, 05:19 PM
My ace in the hole:biggrin:http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i16/nepal_flyfishing_guru/IMGP0011_2.jpg (http://s68.photobucket.com/user/nepal_flyfishing_guru/media/IMGP0011_2.jpg.html)
Ahh, Garden Nymphs. Absolute killers.
Seriously, pheasant tail under a caddis or PT and hares ear until the afternoon then use the Caddis/PT.

MadisonBoats
09-28-2013, 05:56 AM
I use a size 14 EHC in orange year round. It's my go to fly.

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u51/buzzmcmanus/2013%20Fishing/8-11-2013/P1010132_zpsba38a71e.jpg (http://s165.photobucket.com/user/buzzmcmanus/media/2013%20Fishing/8-11-2013/P1010132_zpsba38a71e.jpg.html)
Buzz...,
One of my favorites for tailwater-dry action in the fall!

buzzmcmanus
09-28-2013, 10:20 AM
Buzz...,
One of my favorites for tailwater-dry action in the fall!

I remember fishing the Clinch a couple falls ago with a size 12 EHC, orange, and a size 16 BHPT dropped off it. I caught a pile of fish that day. All the rainbows were caught on the dropper and all the browns were caught on the dry. It was strange the way they were each keyed into something different. I need to get caught up with work so I can get back out there while the fools are watching football.

No Hackle
09-28-2013, 02:14 PM
Size 8 Tellico or a Tennessee 20 incher.
Lynn

flyman
09-29-2013, 04:18 PM
I honestly believe most of the time stealth and a good presentation at the proper depth is more important than the particular pattern. i do like terrestrials until winter really sets in. Their isn't much hatching this time of year. I also down size my dry flies and nymphs this time of yea. It seems to help with the low clear water conditions you are faced with most of the time. Also with most aquatic insects are on a yearly cycle, The nymphs that were laid this spring and summer are still small and growing at this stage in their life cycle.