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09-29-2013, 07:37 PM
Ok, since Byron has got me all fired up with the daily reports I'm going to try to learn how to tie this Game Changer. My question: if tying for the stripers, how does one go about putting some kind of shock leader in series with leader and Tippett? Thanks.

10-03-2013, 08:39 PM
Apparently no one knows how to tie a shock leader, I'll ask elsewhere.

10-03-2013, 09:35 PM
Ok I love a challenge so I googled "how to tie a shock leader" and bunch of you tube videos came up. Almost all seemed British with the first one done by a Brit wearing a Che Gueavra T shirt. It kinda looked like it started like a blood knot with a third knot added. It was titled A rev olutioary shock knot so not sure if it was for fish or a military coup. Viva la shock!:p

10-03-2013, 10:05 PM
I imagine the tippets we usually use getting cut quickly by a striper. I wonder how a piece of 12 or 14 pound mono would act in a surgeons knot connection with a 3x leader, maybe a Rio tapered? If it would form a solid connection or slip out when you set the hook on that 15lb. Striper? If you spend 2 hours + on a fly you would cry if that knot slipped at hook set.
I thought somebody here would have probably crossed that bridge a few times.

10-03-2013, 10:25 PM
Good question because the videos I saw looked like big mono and references to stripers or surf, maybe some steelhead guys on here have the college of knowledge on this. Added note: As far as on the Clinch I see some big brown hunters tying 3X leader straight to flyline with an articulated fly on the end, not sure if standard practice just what I sometimes see.

The Principal
10-04-2013, 02:30 AM
Striper fishermen also tie a piece of mono to the fly line.

10-04-2013, 10:03 AM
Yes, I also see that on big brown hunters on the Clinch, flyline, 3ft. 10lb flurocarbon, than articulated fly like dungeon or a fly called circus peanut

10-04-2013, 11:50 AM
I watched a guy last night on TV fishing saltwater and he used what he called a "tuna ring" to the leader then braided shock tip. He was fishing Mako shark.

David Knapp
10-04-2013, 12:19 PM
Bran, I'm not sure how large of a striper we are talking about, but have caught them up to the the 25-30 pound range and have never worried about a shock leader. I use straight 12 pound FLUORO most of the time although occasionally a "leader" made from 20 pound mono to 12 pound fluoro. I have not had problems with breaking fish off but have had huge fish straighten out hooks. With a good drag, I don't think a shock section is that important but that's just my opinion.

10-04-2013, 01:49 PM
Thanks David, I really have no idea. I've never tried the Striper FF here. I've caught a bunch over the years on baitcasting equipment before I took up FF but I don't know of anyone here that does it. These aren't huge Striper, 15-20 would be a big one, but, they are river run Striper and can give a good run in the current.

David Knapp
10-04-2013, 03:07 PM
Bran, I'll be very interested to hear a report from you on those fish once you get out on the water. The stripers in TN can really run hard (I see my backing on every fish that's over 15 pounds) so those saltwater bad boys running up the rivers would probably be incredible. Good luck to you on your quest! I assume you will have to wait until next spring or summer to try this?