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Robinryder2
06-18-2014, 09:01 AM
Due to my work schedule my trout fishing has taken a major blow. I'm either working when the generation is good or I just can't get away. I haven't been to the clinch in almost a month and I live 20 mins away. It's killing me. So my buddy and I have decided to hit up Indian creek in Harrogate a few times on the weekends just to say we went fishing. They haven't stocked it with trout since mid April. We usually go up a couple weeks after the last stocking and catch a couple limits to keep. But we went up Sunday afternoon and still caught plenty of trout. Along with about 14 smallmouth between us and a dozen or so redeye each.

Now granted these weren't trophy fish by anyone's standards, but catching them on 3 and 4 wt rods chucking streamers and wooly buggers is more than satisfying. The biggest smallmouth we caught was probably 14" or so. I missed one that I'd say was 16" by my best guess. We have in the past caught 17" and 18" smallmouth out of this creek along with a couple random largemouth and spotted bass.

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All in all it was a fun day fishing. Ended up with probably 45 fish altogether with even a couple limits of left over trout in there. The high water temps were hard on them and idk how much longer they have left. But that's what you get with a put and take stocker creek.

bigsur
06-18-2014, 10:14 AM
That looks like a great place to chill and fish with nice acesss. You are right about the Clinch; flows are hard to time lately for those of us who work during the week. I should have taken a picture last night at Miller's ramp, the TVA project is motoring along and a pretty white rock wall is now in place instead of the guardrail right at the launch, which has been deepened and cleaned out for better boat access. The riprap along the bank looks mostly in place to protect shoreline, the only drawback I have seen so far is getting into the water for fisherman is harder, does not have the easy bank access we are used to. I think the project is ongoing so maybe that will be worked on also. Thanks for posting pics for an area I have never seen before!:biggrin:

77punk
06-18-2014, 10:43 AM
Looks like a decent little stream, thanks for sharing your report.

Robinryder2
06-18-2014, 02:41 PM
Bigsur-

I haven't seen millers in a while. Last I was there they had the rip rap on the down stream side. But as far as access to this creek: easy, yes. Public, no. Lol a little friendly trespassing never hurt anyone. :biggrin:

waterwolf
06-18-2014, 03:11 PM
Good stuff

silvercreek
06-18-2014, 06:41 PM
TWRA does not stock trout unless the landowners allow access. You should be OK.

waterwolf
06-18-2014, 06:54 PM
TWRA does not stock trout unless the landowners allow access. You should be OK.

That is false. I can promise that won't be well received on the vast majority of stocked trout waters in this state.

I certainly have snuck across my fair share of private ground over the years, but never would I advise others to do so.

Robinryder2
06-18-2014, 07:07 PM
That is false. I can promise that won't be well received on the vast majority of stocked trout waters in this state.

I certainly have snuck across my fair share of private ground over the years, but never would I advise others to do so.

We catch trout on these streams in spots where I know the TWRA guys aren't gonna climb and walk to stock the fish. We catch trout well downstream from the last stocking point on the creek. I've been greeted by a couple landowners on this particular creek. One in particular walked across the cow pasture, pistol on his hip, asked us how fishing was. We talked for 30 mins and at the end of the convo he said catch all the "explicit" trout out of here, it used to have big smallmouth in it years ago. Lmao

Worse thing they're gonna do is run me off.... Now the fashion in which they do so is a different story. :eek:

waterwolf
06-18-2014, 07:32 PM
We catch trout on these streams in spots where I know the TWRA guys aren't gonna climb and walk to stock the fish. We catch trout well downstream from the last stocking point on the creek. I've been greeted by a couple landowners on this particular creek. One in particular walked across the cow pasture, pistol on his hip, asked us how fishing was. We talked for 30 mins and at the end of the convo he said catch all the "explicit" trout out of here, it used to have big smallmouth in it years ago. Lmao

Worse thing they're gonna do is run me off.... Now the fashion in which they do so is a different story. :eek:


:biggrin: I've been there plenty of times myself having an uncomfortable conversation. My post wasn't directed at you. It was in response to silvercreek stating that stocked waters are public.

silvercreek
06-18-2014, 07:43 PM
I didn't say they were public. I said the landowner must allow access before the TWRA will stock it.

waterwolf
06-18-2014, 08:51 PM
I didn't say they were public. I said the landowner must allow access before the TWRA will stock it.

Are you implying that the landowner must provide fisherman access or TWRA access?

silvercreek
06-18-2014, 09:33 PM
The landowners do not have to provide the TWRA or anglers with access, but if they are agreeable to having the TWRA stock the stream then they must agree to allow anglers on the stream. Otherwise tax dollars would be stocking a private stream. If landowners refuse angler access, then the TWRA stops stocking the stream. I can see your issue, but the landowner has pretty much agreed up front that folks will be on the stream that flows through his property. You might wade through several properties. I'm talking about these small streams, not tailwaters.

waterwolf
06-18-2014, 10:04 PM
The landowners do not have to provide the TWRA or anglers with access, but if they are agreeable to having the TWRA stock the stream then they must agree to allow anglers on the stream. Otherwise tax dollars would be stocking a private stream. If landowners refuse angler access, then the TWRA stops stocking the stream. I can see your issue, but the landowner has pretty much agreed up front that folks will be on the stream that flows through his property. You might wade through several properties. I'm talking about these small streams, not tailwaters.

That is completely false. There is no stocked stream that flows through private land that allows anglers access from the state. You cannot cross private land to wade the clinch without written permission. You cannot cross private land on any of the small put and take waters to fish, and unlike the Clinch small streams cannot be waded through private land holdings.

Trout stocked at a public place (bridge, road sholder, etc)that end up migrating to water that is void of public access cannot be accessed unless the angler gains permission from the landowner to cross their property

In fact on most of our tailwaters you can't walk on dry land if the adjacent property is privately owned. The access stops at the waters edge, not the high water mark. Luckily most landowners don't take issue on the larger rivers.

silvercreek
06-18-2014, 10:17 PM
As I said, I'm not talking about tailwaters, nor am I suggesting you can run amok over someone's property to get to the stream. If you access the stream at a public point like a bridge, you should be ok if you keep to the stream. If you are correct, then my tax dollars are being used to stock private streams at a time when funds are not available to fund hatcheries. My last words on this.

waterwolf
06-18-2014, 11:37 PM
As I said, I'm not talking about tailwaters, nor am I suggesting you can run amok over someone's property to get to the stream. If you access the stream at a public point like a bridge, you should be ok if you keep to the stream. If you are correct, then my tax dollars are being used to stock private streams at a time when funds are not available to fund hatcheries. My last words on this.

You can absolutely not wade down a non-navigable waterway that flows through private property. There are miles upon miles of stocked creeks that flow through private ground which you cannot freely wade through without permission. Sure in lots of cases landowners may choose to not run you off, but they are well within their rights to run you off or have you ticketed for trespassing.

In addition, not one single penny from the taxes we pay go towards the stocking of trout, ZERO. All of that money is collected through license revenue.

This is something that infuriates me while we are discussing trout stocking. With the all the complaining about lack of funds by TWRA why they choose to waste money throwing fish in every piss trickle that can hold a trout for a few months defies logic. If money is so dang tight, maybe they should focus on waters that can sustain trout populations year round. Bottom line the time has long since passed for TWRA to stop managing our fisheries as if they are a bargain grocery store, and maximize the potential of the resources we are blessed to have in this state.