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billyspey
01-30-2007, 10:42 PM
i was talking with a wild life officer about the clinch . he was telling me about license check. he told me about the number of fly fisherman that did not have a trout stamp. when asked the were fishing for what ever type of fish for instance carp. if you pratice catch and release, than you are not required to have a trout stamp. you could be fishing for carp catching trout and practing c&r and be legal????

ttas67
01-31-2007, 02:11 AM
yep. I buy a trout stamp for the tailwaters, but this past year I had forgotten to buy one and stopped by somewhere i assumed would sell them. they didn't, but anyway, I was told that I was actually just attempting to catch a bluegill, no trout stamp required and I could get in no trouble. Now I don't advocate that anyone fish without a trout stamp. lets be fair and keep it legal. but from what I understand, I believe you are correct. It's only $18 a year though, and I'm sure that money goes to help stock the fish that you catch. that's worth it to me. license prices are getting a little out of hand though, especially for out of state. a one day lic and stamp in PA was around $25 if I remember correctly. ouch.

Flat Fly n
01-31-2007, 07:41 AM
BillSpey,
So I am due a refund because I didn't kill a deer this year while I was in the woods carrying a rifle?

As long as I miss the doves while hunting, no license required?

Why even buy a fishing license if I practice catch and release not only on rivers but lakes as well.

Maybe drug test are needed for some officers because this makes no sense, but then again TWRA.

Flat Fly'n

Grumpy
01-31-2007, 08:44 AM
I've been told the same thing, i do some classes for TWRA, the officer's i've talked to said they'd write my butt up if i didn't have one though. :o

Grumpy

Mike_Anderson
01-31-2007, 10:49 AM
Dang I got hit 4 times this year. TN, KY, GA, NC. :-/

RuningWolf
01-31-2007, 11:17 AM
i was talking with a wild life officer about the clinch . he was telling me about license check. he told me about the number of fly fisherman that did not have a trout stamp. when asked the were fishing for what ever type of fish for instance carp. if you pratice catch and release, than you are not required to have a trout stamp. *you could be fishing for carp catching trout and practing c&r and be legal????

I talked to the TWRA regional office. They said if you was fishing in trout waters (i.e. Clinch Tailwater) you have to have a trout stamp. He also said yearly there are numerous violations written below the dam.

They also said if some officer is telling you he cannot catch anybody or anything that sounds like it is not correct to report that officer to Brian Ripley 1-800-332-0900

RuningWolf
01-31-2007, 11:27 AM
I've been told the same thing, i do some classes for TWRA, *the officer's i've talked to said they'd write my butt up if i didn't have one though. :o

Grumpy
Grumpy

I did not ask about fisheries with a large population of other fish. However the law director said it was like being in the deer woods during deer season with deer hunting equipment, you better have the appropriate licenses.

My experience is some officers are not fully aware of the law. One tried to write me a ticket when I was young for not having a trout stamp. I was not of age to even have a fishing license and had done talked to the regional manager prior to this occurring. Long story but he was red faced when it was all said and done.

I have had experiences in the deer woods where an officer was not fully aware of the law. Most try to use common sense

RuningWolf
01-31-2007, 12:01 PM
yep. *I buy a trout stamp for the tailwaters, but this past year I had forgotten to buy one and stopped by somewhere i assumed would sell them. *they didn't, but anyway, I was told that I was actually just attempting to catch a bluegill, no trout stamp required and I could get in no trouble. *Now I don't advocate that anyone fish without a trout stamp. *lets be fair and keep it legal. *but from what I understand, I believe you are correct. *It's only $18 a year though, and I'm sure that money goes to help stock the fish that you catch. *that's worth it to me. *license prices are getting a little out of hand though, especially for out of state. *a one day lic and stamp in PA was around $25 if I remember correctly. *ouch. *

You made me curious so I looked it up and compared it to Tn as Igo to Pa some not as often as I wish but when I do visit I get the 3 day as I stay for about a week at a time

3 day tourist $25 + agent fee $1= $26
trout stamp $8 + agent fee $1 = $9
total = $35
I day tourist for everything is $25 + the agent fee $1= $26
Annual tourist is $52 (including agent fee) and a trout stamp is the same as above for a total of $61

Tn has
3 day nonresident no trout $16.50
3 day nonresident all fish $33.50
10 day nonresident no trout $25.50
10 day nonresident all fish $50.50
Annual nonresident no trout $41
Annual nonresident all fish $81

ChemEAngler
01-31-2007, 01:17 PM
I always buy a trout stamp, but that is because I usually keep 5 - 10 fish per year.

Here is a new one I was unaware of. I know that if you are fishing out of a boat you are required to wear a life vest. However, I had a friend get ticketed for wade fishing below a dam. When he questioned the TWRA officer, he said that he was within the 100 yard buffer zone. The reason this baffles me is that below the powerhouse on Hiwassee, I have seen dozens of people fishing. Does this rule apply there as well, or is it only associated with actual dams? In the parking lot at the powerhouse there is a sign saying that life vests are required, but I cannot remember if it specifies if this only applies to boaters or waders.

Has anybody else had any experience with this?

Travis

billyspey
01-31-2007, 07:08 PM
i had never thought of this in all my fishing days i have been trout fishin for 40 yrs have always bought a stamp .i buy fishing lisence in 3 states and trout stamps in 2. all states have increased their fees acording what twra charge their residence for non red. licence. i know some of the dams have sign dictating pfds but don't if all do.

TNGlen
02-01-2007, 01:19 PM
Just did a little reading. All the regs say is that if you are "fishing for trout" you must have a trout stamp. No stamp would fly pretty much anywhere you could convince an officer there were other fish to catch.

Additionally, on wading in a buffer zone.....was the reg specified at any of the accesses to get into the tailwater? There are no specific laws that I could find that relate to wearing a PFD (if that was what your girlfriend was fined for) while wading or approaching a dam too closely. I would think that the buffer zone would have to be clearly marked. Did you just pay the ticket or go to court?

I think that in our postings on Fisheries Management, we might start pushing a trout stamp requirement above a specific geographic spot on the tailwaters.

ChemEAngler
02-01-2007, 09:36 PM
I don't know if he paid it, or went to court. He said that the TWRA officer went around handing out citations to everybody who was in the vicinity. He estimated that about 15 people all got ticketed for the same violation. I am not even sure which tailwater he was on, and he did not say anything about any regulation postings in the area. I do remember him telling me that it was around $200.

Flat Fly n
02-02-2007, 05:51 PM
BillSpey,
This has been one of the funniest and most unbelievable threads I have read in awhile. *NOT only did you see something "as rare as hen's teeth", or on the order of a modern day sighting of a eastern relative of sasquatch (a TWRA officer at the Clinch River), he did not know the law that he was assigned to enforce! *I love it.

Because of your incredible luck in sighting something as improbable as a UFO, I am asking, do you happen to have the winning numbers on Powerball for this weekend so that I can retire and fish with Running Wolf?

Flat Fly'n

TNGlen
02-02-2007, 09:23 PM
Chem,

Sorry I called your friend a girlfriend.....I have no idea where that one came from....

ttas67
02-03-2007, 01:40 AM
runningwolf, thanks for posting those prices. last year I stopped up there and fished a day on the way to somewhere else, $25, stopped on the way back, another $25. I could have just bought a full year lic. for the price of those two days. I might have to do that this year. It's kind of like dollywood though. when you go you can pay an extra $20 on top of your ticket and just get a season pass. you never end up going back again though, so they win.

Fishermansfly
02-03-2007, 02:47 AM
Suggestions to all! Having working knowledge in regards to this matter it's better to spend the few extra dollars on a stamp than to get a citation. The citations are expensive and if you don't pay them I hope you enjoy the federal court judge regarding the matter! I've seen plenty of people come into the Blount county jail for, undersize fish and hunt/fish w/o a license. These guys don't play around and it can get really expensive...After all I'd rather give the money which goes towards a good cause (ie; stocking and fishery management) than to the fed govt were the money will be dispursed however they so please. Also to add I'd say $200 is probably an understatement maybee three years ago. The average state citation is around $200 to 250 they start at $190 so a federal matter (parks) would probably be a little steeper. If your unsure of a catch (size) I'd probably through it back..And if your fishing with out a stamp and you get a ticket for it well....I hope you pay your fine!

2 cents yet again~fishermansfly

DryFly1
02-03-2007, 07:52 AM
I never give it a second thought. *I simply look at it as an annual donation for a good cause. What else can you do for a year, as often a you want, at this cost.

Mark....

DALEFISH
02-03-2007, 09:25 AM
i live outta state and have been buying tenn. year license for 3 years now and have always got all species.a little extra cost,but when you travel to fish a place, the last thing you want to have to deal with is law problems,also,it seems to me twra does a good job with stocking and management of its waters that hopefully the extra cost is going to fund these things.i`ve always had good fishing trips in tennessee(yes,i said always ;D)
dalefish

doghaircaddis
02-03-2007, 02:54 PM
I know I've heard other people say that as long as you don't keep any fish, you don't need a stamp. Doesn't make sense to me. That's why certain waters are designated as "trout water". If you fish in "trout water" then you need a trout stamp, regardless of what species you are fishing for.