View Full Version : best all round rod and reel

06-08-2007, 11:41 AM
I am thinking about getting a new rod and reel or rather updating my old one. My question is "What would be a good all round rod and reel for trout and panfish?'' Keep in mind that I am a school teacher and money is hard to come by so keep it reasonable, let's hear from ya'll.
GMC from WTN

06-08-2007, 12:06 PM
I'll let others chime in on the reel, but I love Temple Fork rods!!!!!!! A 4wt TFO Pro or Finesse from 8' - 9'. It's a great company! I know a lot of the other guys like St Croix, but for the money TFO is extremely hard to beat...

As far as a reel. I personally don't think it matters much. In general, it's just a fancy line holder. I'm sure some would disagree, but an old Chief Master Sergeant always told me I was entitled to my WRONG opinion....

06-08-2007, 02:04 PM
I second the TFO. I have a 9' 5wt and I do all of my fishing with this one rod. Are there times that I would like a 3wt or 4wt, yes; but there are also times when I like having the 5wt. I also think the price is reasonable compared to other rods out there and plus you'll get a lifetime warranty.

David Knapp
06-08-2007, 02:18 PM
If you plan on fishing out west or on tailwaters, I would go with a 5 wt personally. For the reels, I like the Orvis Battenkill or the Battenkill Bar Stock II for a bit more $$$. The BBS is a sweet reel that is very light weight. Well worth the money in my opinion...

06-08-2007, 04:58 PM
I we also climb on board with TFO I have A 4wt pro and a 3wt finesse. Ihave more expensive rods but they stay at the house now. Orvis Battenkill mid arbor has been a great reel for me, a little heavy but tough. I was buying cheap reels, but as a bumbling flyfisher they didn't last very long. I think lro sell the mid abor for @ $119. Tfo pro is @ $160. a way cheaper outfit then some and performs as well if not better. But that is my opnion.

06-08-2007, 06:05 PM
I have two Battenkills, but if I had it to do over I'd drop the extra $20 and get the BBS. It's a cooler looking line holder... lol

06-08-2007, 08:59 PM
My first rod/reel combo was a Redington Crosswater 5/6 Wt combo that I thought was a sweet little package. Truth is that I didn't know any better and the guy gave me exactly what I asked for- a good beginner outfit to see if I would like it.

As of last week, I am casting a TFO Pro series 8'6" 4Wt that is unbelieveable. In the same outfitter's shop side by side with over $600 rods I would spend my money on the TFO everytime. My 6 yr old son went with me yesterday and I rigged the TFO for him and I tried to use the Redington to no avail. Enough said.

TFO Pro 8' 6" Pro series 4WT, TFO1 reel, Wulff Triangle Taper j3 4WT line is what I am hooked on. Already fixin to order a Finesse Series cause I like em.:biggrin:

06-08-2007, 09:22 PM
My go to rod is the 8'6" 4wt TFO Pro... I love it!

06-09-2007, 04:24 PM
For arguements sake, let's suppose that the rod is a Temple Fork Professional Series 9' 5wt 4pc Rod. Specs say it weighs 3.8oz.

A TFO MK I has a diameter of 3" and weighs 4.7 ounces.

A Orvis Battenkill Mid Arbor III Reel Black weighs 5.8 oz and has a diameter of 3 1/4".

Is the extra ounce going to unbalance a 3.8oz rod??

Thanks for your opinion. 100% beginner here.

Gerry Romer
06-09-2007, 11:09 PM
For about a year now I've been fishing my TFO 8'6" 4 wt. with an Orvis Mid-arbor and a RIO 6 wt. pocket water line. Tonight I switched it out with my BBS II with a RIO 5wt pocket water line. That is my new go to set up for the park. I absolutely love the feel and response. I had my BBS II on a St. Croix Avid 3 wt. and I really like that set up for dries in the park, but for dries with droppers and nymphs in the park the TFO with the BBS II is a much better setup. :biggrin:

Gerry Romer

06-10-2007, 01:43 PM
Need help with the translation please!


Gerry Romer
06-10-2007, 02:11 PM
I posted a brief explanation earlier in reply to a question about overlining my rods.

Unfortunately, Rio discontinued their Pocket Water line. It's a great line for fishing pockets in tight quarters. Takes a little getting used to - for example, if you have less than 5' of line outside the tip-top and hold your rod vertical, all of your line plus leader plus tippet will slide right back down through the guides. It's similar to a rocket taper or shooting taper line. The first six feet or so is a fine head that almost swells immediately into a pretty fat belly that runs about 20 feet or so and then transitions into a level line.

With about 10 to 12 feet of line out of the tip-top you can roll cast with a greater degree of accuracy and speed than with a level or traditional weight forward line. You can also get more line out with fewer false casts within a 30' to 40' range. Beyond about 50' the line becomes unweildy and useless as far as targeting a specific fish or area.

It's also one of those lines that you can really feel "loading" whatever rod you've got it on. The closest line Rio makes to the old Pocket Water is their new Nymph line. The configuration is basically the same but it's a sinking line where the Pocket Water line was a floating line.

Hope this explanation helps. If anybody out there knows where I can get my hands on any more Pocket Water lines, I'd appreciate the tip! :cool:

Gerry Romer

06-11-2007, 02:03 AM
affordable rods: i would highly recommend a st. croix imperial. however, they no longer make them. my understanding though is that the st. croix avid is the "new" imperial. check them out. also, TFO makes excellent rods with nice prices, and obviously has some very satisfied customers.

reels: hands down get an orvis battenkill or BBS. the mid arbor is a nice reel, but it is heavy, and more expensive.

as far as balancing goes, its not just matching up the weight of the rod and reel. different rods have their weight distributed differently throughout the rod. one may be really tip heavy, the other may have more weight in the butt. think of how a lever works and you'll understand what I'm talking about.

06-11-2007, 10:23 AM
I don't have any experience with the TFO rods but they do have a good following locally. I do recommend the St. Croix Avids and the Legend Ultras. More expensive but good performance. A 5wt. will pretty much cover all the bases for fishing around here but if your like most of us, you end up wanting something smaller for the mtns.
I also like the Orvis Battenkill reels, Go ahead and get the BBS since it is machined. Very good reels and drag for the price. You will appreciate the drag when you get a larger fish on it.
Lines.... spend as much as you can on a quality line. A DT will last twice as long.