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Barbara
07-17-2007, 11:01 PM
Arrived yesterday. Fished Metcalf this am. Very little water and caught nothing. Moved to Tremont and got 3 rainbow, 2 chubs and saw one hugh snake.
It rained in Townsend twice this afternoon, good rains. I intended to go to Elkmont tomorrow. Now I wonder if the water will be muddy. But it was wonderful to see the rain. I was shocked at the low water levels.

Jswitow
07-18-2007, 10:33 AM
Not the blues man! I hope you went this am. Doubt the rain muddied the water much. Very little disturbance in the watershed so not too much mud shows up.

Tight lines,
John

Troutman
07-18-2007, 10:51 AM
Off color water (not muddy) can be a blessing! I've experienced some great fishing in the park right after a rainshower. The rising freshly oxygenated water and all those terrestrials washed into the stream. Beetle patterns and green weenies work good, and also try some small streamers like a #8 muddler minnow for cruising browns. :biggrin:

Barbara
07-18-2007, 02:03 PM
Another big rain this morning. Went to Tremont about 10:30. Water had some color but was OK. Unfortunately, some kids from the institute got to my spots before I did. No luck.

My husband hiked up the West Prong Trail to campsite 18. Is the stream there a good place to fish? I guess that is the West Prong of the Little River.

Barbara
07-18-2007, 09:14 PM
Fished above the institute a couple hours. The water was pretty stained, fish did not hit much. I tried the head of the pools where the water was coming in, using a fly and dropper. Had only one strike top water.

So.....do I hike up Little River Trail tomorrow? Or will the water be muddy and I should go to Pigeon Forge for a nice lunch and spend $??

Kytroutbum
07-18-2007, 11:13 PM
I fish the Little River Trail area extensively. I'd hike up Little River Trail about 10 minutes, then tie on a beetle and toss it into the shaded areas and under over hanging trees and brush. Use 7X frog hair tippet. You don't need to hike up high on the Little River Trail to do well, better fishing is actually just up above the houses a little bit. 2 years ago, I caught 20+ trout oin the 4th of july, 90 degrees in mid day using that technique. I'd use it now if I weren't heading west in two weeks.

Tight lines
Randy Sale
Kytroutbum

Barbara
07-18-2007, 11:18 PM
Good advice. I have ants and grasshopper patterns but I'm not sure I have a beetle. Maybe I need to stop at LRO before going up the trail. I am also considering West Prong, never fished it at Campsite 18 and I'd like to try it. Rain looks more likely Friday so Friday may be Gatlinburg day.

Barbara
07-18-2007, 11:19 PM
Randy,
Where are you going out west? My husband and I are going to the Madison River in September. I hope all the forest fires are out by then.

Kytroutbum
07-19-2007, 01:32 AM
I'm heading to the Shoshone Forest between Cody and Cooke City and the Beartooth Mountains. I know some lesser known streams full of trout, also the Beartooth is full of Alpine Lakes which range from no fish, to swarms on tiny Brookies to Brookies about a foot and Cutts up to 20 inches if you walk in. I might try a couple days on the S. and N. Forks of the Shoshone are full of water and the S. Fork has lots of BIG Browns.
If I go into the park, I'll usually fish the Lamar area while looking for the wolves, etc. I may be a heretic but I rarely fish the park- too crowded.

Watch the water temps and levels. The NPS has a ban on fishing between noon and 6 pm on a lot of streams. This happens on the West side of park a lot. Speaking of fires, Several years ago, My brother and I stopped to fish the Lamar for an hour on a "day off trip to West Y". I have pictures of a helicopter picking up water in the same pool I was fishing.
I need to get back to tying up some Turck's Tarantulas
Tight lines
Randy Sale

Barbara
07-20-2007, 10:47 PM
Hiked Bote Mt. Trail Thursday. Got a late start. The stream at Campsite 18 is so pretty but the water is low. Caught a few small rainbow. Saw 2 larger ones in a pool but they saw me and would not rise to anything. Tried a dropper off the dry fly but they just looked at it and laughed. Smart fish...

Coming back not far up the trail from the campground my husband stepped right beside a snake stretched out on the side of the trail. It was so perfectly camoflaged he did not see it at all. Hard to tell if it was a rat snake or otherwise, it did not stay around long enough to identify. :eek:

Ran out of water coming back. It's good to remember how much water one needs on a summer day hiking. Had more in the truck and was glad to see that truck!

Met a guy who was horsebackriding a big loop starting at the SchoolHouse Gap trail. He said the water at the trailhead where we parked was usually 2-3 feet deep, it looked more like 6-8 inches now.

Did the Gatlinburg thing today. Too many people. Little River tomorrow, probably Elkmont if the tourists don't rule.

Barbara
07-22-2007, 07:46 AM
Spent Sat. morning at Elkmont, fished below the campground for an hour then headed up Little River trail until 11:30. Enjoyed the morning but no fish. Nothing on dry flies and little on nymphs. After lunch headed down to Townsend fishing likely looking spots that weren't full of tubers' cars. Where do all these folks come from? And where are their brains? Wait, I think I know,....

Met one couple, in a curve, walking, side by side. Since they took up most of the road, I had to go into the incoming traffic to keep from hitting them. Another young man decided to turn around in the road, blocking both lanes. Luckily I have good brakes since there was no shoulder to pull around him. Luckily the people behind me had good brakes.

I finally found an empty hole and fished for 30 minutes or so, catching 2. I had worked my way to the head of a run and was ready for the pool which had good flow and looked promising. About that time a mom, dad and kid popped over the bank, pulled off their shoes and hopped in the water. They said they had been hiking and their feet hurt. They asked a bunch of questions about fly fishing. I didn't get mad because they were so friendly and had no clue they had just spooked any trout in that pool.

Drove to Tremont gravel road but the water was warm and low. Decided it was time to quit. Going home today. Will be back in 3 weeks if work isn't too bad. I need to retire and fish more!

fishNlady
07-22-2007, 09:52 AM
I need to retire and fish more!
Amen!! I need to do that too!

mmorgan135
07-23-2007, 03:56 PM
Barbara,

Were you and your husband coming down the trail close to the bridge above Tremont Sunday around lunch?

Barbara
07-23-2007, 04:11 PM
No, we were at Tremont on Saturday afternoon.

sammcdonald
07-24-2007, 05:58 PM
well, if ya come on any friday in august, stop in the GWC on the spur. i'll be working the park desk 11-9. yawn.

Barbara
07-25-2007, 09:12 AM
Sam,

Is GWC Govt Welcome Center? I need to get my husband a senior pass to get us into Yellowstone this fall. You sell them there?

sammcdonald
07-25-2007, 04:38 PM
barb, it's the gatlinburg welcome center. the park has a desk and we have the senior pass there....lifetime park pass for $10.

Barbara
07-25-2007, 05:30 PM
Sam,

That is a deal, $10 for lifetime pass. Makes my hubby want to live longer to get his money's worth. :biggrin:

We hope to be in Townsend in August if work cooperates. Will stop by GWC.

I really want to fish Greenbrier. We stay in Townsend. If the kids have gone back to school, hopefully, the traffic will be less in August. How long will it take to drive to Greenbrier area?

Barbara

PeteCz
07-25-2007, 06:57 PM
Barbara, from Townsend to Greenbrier will take about 500 hours...:eek:

OK, maybe that's a bit of a stretch. I think its about 30 miles from Townsend to Pittman Center on US321 (the entrance to the Greenbrier section of the park). If you do it early enough in the day you can make it in 45-50 minutes. If you attempt it midday (or on the wrong day) it could take almost 2 hours (I know this from painful experiences). The stretch from the Sugarlands center through G'burg onto US321 is the problem. That two or three mile section is a killer.

Go early and you should be fine. Its a great place.

Gerry Romer
07-25-2007, 09:40 PM
I, foolishly, thought I could get through G'burg to Greenbrier on Memorial Day... 500 hours is a bit on the low side as I am still stuck in traffic!!

Gerry