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nvr2L8
09-09-2007, 09:09 AM
Can someone explain what a slot limit is?

Also, any word on how the TU plate sales are going?

Missing the river after a week off.....:frown:

buckeyetrouter
09-09-2007, 09:25 AM
assuming that it would be the same in Tennessee, back here in Ohio a slot limit is a sizing measure to allow particular fish be kept and others be released. In other words they must fit the slot to be kept, example at some of our lakes bass must be at least 12" but not over 16" (made up numbers) to be kept. Anything under the 12" must be returned and anything over the 16" must be returned.......the fish must fit the "slot" to be kept......hope this helps and is true for Tennessee also.......

Buckeyetrouter

Flying Trout
09-09-2007, 09:25 AM
Somebody will be able to explain this more in depth than me. The slot limit that I have encountered was with Redfish. Basically, you have a minimum like in the mountains and then you have a maximum also. So it being called a slot is basically saying it has to fall between two these two set sizes. It does wonders for the fishery. I just got finished with this post and saw our Ohio friend had already done a better job.

buckeyetrouter
09-09-2007, 09:33 AM
hey Flying Trout......I always like when there are multiple responses to these questions. Each has there own understanding and will likely add something that was not in the other......plus I believe that when responded to in mulitiples that it adds validity to the answers and hope it makes the person asking feel more comfortable with the answers....

please chime in if anyone has other info......

buckeyetrouter

David Knapp
09-09-2007, 12:12 PM
Here in TN, our slot has tended to be that you release fish that fall in a certain size range. For example, on the South Holston, any trout from 16 to 22 inches must be released... We also have minimum size limits such as for brown trout on the Caney Fork (all browns must be released under 18 inches).

nvr2L8
09-09-2007, 03:17 PM
Well, that's definitely two different views on slotting - in one slot you keep and in one slot you release. This could be confusing.

I gotta tell you, I would have a tough time releasing a 17" brown!:eek:

Paula Begley
09-09-2007, 07:52 PM
I have moved this thread to a more appropriate forum for comments on your questions.

Thanks for bringing this up, nvr2L8, I'm sure many people had questions about this topic.

Paula

Gerry Romer
09-09-2007, 11:11 PM
I gotta tell you, I would have a tough time releasing a 17" brown!:eek:

Not if you saw the effect it has on the total fishery... bigger, better, feistier across the board.

Fished the Clinch last weekend and the South Holston today. No comparison. The SoHo beats the Clinch, hands down. And the SoHo was getting hammered today, but everybody was catching big, healthy fish! Bait fishermen, hardware fishermen, and fly fishermen all fishing side by side. Some keeping, some C&R. Didn't make any difference. The SoHo fishery is healthy despite the didymo - which is another story.

Gerry

Gerry

Flat Fly n
09-10-2007, 07:00 AM
NVR2Late,

Slots are not about the present, they are intended for the future. If you thought you could catch that same fish 2-3 months later and he would be 19-21", then would you have second thoughts of releasing him? IF that same 17" brown tugged on your lines a few times, but that same 21" brown would likely ripped you into your backing, why not give it a chance?

BTW. I hope that it is NVR2LATE for the Clinch.

Flat Fly'n

nvr2L8
09-10-2007, 08:01 PM
Not if you saw the effect it has on the total fishery... bigger, better, feistier across the board.



So, Gerry, pretend I'm clueless (not a stretch) on this whole subject and explain the concept of slotting on the Clinch and the impact that has on the fishery. Just needing some education on the subject.

Thanks much in advance.

PeteCz
09-10-2007, 10:31 PM
Charlie,
The proposed slot limit on the Clinch is: Anglers would be allowed keep seven fish, but none 14 to 20 inches long and only one more than 20 inches.

If only one fish above 20" can be kept, all the others that could be removed would have to be less than 14". I'm not sure how big most of the stocked fish are in the Clinch, but if a fish survived to a size of 14", then it could grow to at least 20" before being taken out (legally).

So the slot limit would protect the medium sized fish from harvesting and only allow one 20"+ fish to be taken at a time. More big fish! Assuming they make it to 14"

Here is a link to a recent News-Sentinel article.
http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2007/sep/02/slot-limit-proposal-on-clinch-riles-lucro/

After catching 6-10" fish in the park on a 3wt, I'm not sure I'd know what to do with a 20" trout...

Fishermansfly
09-11-2007, 01:51 AM
If you are unable to keep a fish over 14'' and below a size 20'' or 21'' that means that all of those fish are capable of swimming away after being caught to grow until they reach 22". Bigger fish on the Clinch would (I'm stealing this from some other smart guy) make this a world class fishery thanks Rocky! As far as impact I wouldn't be able to really put my two cent's in...I have fished the S Holston now a total of four times...they have a "Trophy Section" of water and a slot limit to follow. Being as I'm strictly C&R I wouldn't know the specifics...HUGH CHIME IN....And seeing as I don't know when this rule went into effect on the S Holston I really can't comment. But, I do know this the S. Holston definately fishes better. That tailwater see's more fisherman than the Clinch ever will any day of the week and yet it still produces better fish. Bigger fish will produce better spawns...So this in itself would help TWRA in it's stocking....All of this though will come down to enforcement of!! This will only prevent the honest fisherman from taking an illegal size fish home with him or her! All of those fish realesed between 14 and 20 inches will be left to grow so that means that there will be alot more fish between 14 and 20 inch fish left for me and you to catch and be released for some other guy or gal to snag after it's grown a little and gotten a little smarter!

I'm interested in someone giving the catch rate/size ratio before and after on the S. Holston....I don't even keep up with the other fisheries, seeing as I'm strictly C&R I don't ever even look at who has a slot limit, just spawning!

I did some research and found something of interest straight from TWRA. http://www.state.tn.us/twra/fish/StreamRiver/tailtrout/South%20Holston%202.0.pdf This link is in reference to TWRA's S. Holston current trout management plan in reference to slot limits and spawn closures...If you don't want to read it, it basically says that they are planning on re-acessing in 2008 to check the impact of the change ie; slot limits enforced since March of 2000 and spawn area's enforced since March of 99'. Interesting read though...It metions a decline in fishing pressure and what might have effected it. Watuaga? I believe that's probably a good answer. Non the less I'll be interested in hearing the results! All and all, for now there not sure if it has any effect on size of fish but it has apparently developed an overwhelming "WILD" brown trout population. Which was evident in seeing a predominant amount of brown trout this weekend there! It's an amazing fishery. The wier laberinth is of more interest to me than anything...I would love to see what this would do to a fishery like the Clinch...I would also like to see the before/after data of the implementation of that since 1991 on the S fork of the Holston. I'm betting it had a major impact!

Brett

nvr2L8
09-11-2007, 05:57 AM
Thanks, guys. Big help.