View Full Version : ST. George Island, Florida HELP NOW!
09-21-2007, 09:31 AM
Leaving in the morning for a week. I need to know where to go and what to throw. I have an 8wt and am not afraid to use it.:cool: I really do need the help the quicker the better. I was just so busy at work trying to get caught up to go on the vacation I forgot to take care of some of the essentials like where to fish!:mad:
09-21-2007, 12:39 PM
Drew and Byron will probably be one of your best sources for help on this one! Byron, has a little to much food on his plate and will more than likely read this too late,,,don't forget you can call him at the shop! I can't really help on where to fish but I can tell you that a good shrimp pattern, a good crab pattern, and a good baitfish pattern should work! I know that's broad but stop in the local fly shop and one of those guys will more than likely let you know what's running, where to go, and what to use! Byron has a sweet fly for catching reds, give him a shout!
Need pictures when you return, hope your luck was better then ours..There are several state parks were you'll be staying in Apalachichola, I'd start fishing there, unless your taking a boat!
09-21-2007, 08:27 PM
If you can find some flats that are between 2 ft and 4 ft deep, there should be a ton of sea trout. They will be smallish (10-18 in) but they are fun to catch. Clouser minnows work well in Chartreuse or white. Seducers or shrimp patterns will probably pay off as well. Redfish love the shrimp patterns. You may catch an occasional flounder as well depending if they are into the shallows yet.
I have fished around those parts quite a bit but mostly spinning gear about this time of year.
09-21-2007, 10:34 PM
If you want reds, look for "broken" marsh and no more than a foot/foot and a half of water. You don't want to fish a straight shoreline - you want to see little clumps of marsh grass scattered. On the surf side, you really don't need to wade out far - no more than the first sandbar, typically. Remember to look for moving water - once the tide stops, usually the fish turn off.
09-22-2007, 12:32 AM
What a great place. You might want to get in touch with Robinson Brothers guide service in Appalachiacola. They seem to be the most notable outfit, and catch alot of reds and trout in the bay and rivers. There may even be some Tarpon still around there out by Alligator point. Something like www.Floridaredfish.com. Appalachicola is a great little old town, 15 minutes away. St. Joe Bay is a good place to wade, I am told.
Hope you have a good trip,
09-22-2007, 05:51 AM
I was just there last week, my second trip. My first was October of last year, and fishing in the surf was much better then than this time. There wasn't nearly the baitfish this year as last, which may well be a seasonal thing, and could be improving. I'm also too cheap to hire a guide (too poor, actually).
I finally gave up on the surf, only catching on a few whiting and catfish. I spent a morning on the pier, getting a mixed bag of smaller fish, and not seeing enough fish caught to make me want to go back.
Late in the week I hit the flats at the boat launches in the park. At the "youth camp" boat ramp, you can walk carefully out to the oyster bars and reach a lot more water.
Take your bug spray. This is my absolute favorite vacation spot.
09-29-2007, 07:41 PM
Try crease flies in the surf in tan and white at St George about 100 yards from the cut. If you have a boat, we had a ball with lady fish on the bay side of the cut where the water color blends on incoming tide. Heavy shock tippet and be prepared to lose some flies but the acrobatics are fun.
Good wading behind the church east of the bridge and out at the youth camp ramp. We saw some people wading near the airport when we were working from a flats boat. Not sure how to get there from the island.
I have been told the east end is good for larger fish and you can wade by driving through the state park. Never done that but plan to on my next trip.
Enjoy, I love that island.
11-06-2007, 11:10 PM
How was the trip and the fishing? Twice I have discussed buying there and both times backed out to watch the property values go up 250%. Did you catch much?
11-30-2007, 03:53 PM
I have to admit that I wound up not using the fly rod with the exception of one day and had no luck. The Oyster bars are murder on flies and tippet. What I did do was pull out the spinning/bait casters and took the wife with me. I learned from a local female fisherman the secret to catching fish on the bay side. CAST NETS. The wife and I were throwing shrimp and were catching cats and croakers. Not exactly a stellar catch. This lady who we had been watching was wearing us out and my pride would not allow me to ask what she was doing. When she got ready to leave she stopped by and was very nice. She basically took pitty and imparted a bunch of knowledge onto us and took the time to show both of us how to use a cast net to catch bait and the best rigs to use.
The next morning we were back at the "youth camp" in the park with a cast net in hand. I changed all the rods to 50lb braided line with 80lb Fluorocarbon leaders that I hand tied used a 3/0 circle hook and 1.5 oz egg sinker with a red glass bead and 100lb test Sampo swivel. We used the cast net to catch pin fish and mullet (4-7 inch) and used that as bait.
HOLY COW!!!!! Did that make all the difference. We caught respectable reds, Jack Crevals, Blues, Lady fish, a snook (if you can believe it). Even the fish that broke off were great fun. Both my wife and I on seperate days hooked fish that we faught for nearly 30 minutes and could not get in. If you've never watched a fish pull 200 yards of braided line off of a bait caster then you have yet to live. This was the best vacation we have had and have decided this is the place we want to come back to year after year. I would highly recommend this Island if you are looking for a place to get away from the commercialism of other beaches. It is truely the Forgotten Coast and I want to keep it that way.
One side note, the state park is prestine and is truely beautiful. It does have one ugly secret The Green Horse Fly. The green horse fly is very similar to the black horse fly in structure but is half the size of its cousine. What it lacks in size it makes up for it in numbers. These flys will attack any part of an unpanted leg that is above the water line. The reason I know this is because as the tide would go out and expose the smallest bit of leg skin they will attack, in numbers, the poor unsuspecting square inch of flesh. The bite is somewhere between a prick from a hypodermic needle and a small caliber gunshot wound. I actually dropped my rod during a cast because of a bite. Bugs normally don't bother me but they do feast on my wife. So if i was getting bit I knew she was in misery. We had to leave the park on the first day and go buy a case(and I do mean case) of bug spray. After you put on the spray then the flies would leave you alone. They will let you know in a quick fast hurry when the bay water has washed most of the spray from your legs. Re application is essential. We fished five days and used five cans of OFF for two people and the occasional poor souls who wandered by and did not bring their own. It should be a criminal offense in the state of Florida not to share bug spray. My wife and I thought we were just unfortunate to catch a big hatch but we were watching the local access channel and caught the monthly St George Island town meeting and they were making a motion to spray the park for next year to cut back on the green horse flies. I was shocked it was that big of a problem. Then my jaw really hit the floor when some environmental hippy said it was wrong to spray for the flies because they were here first and they are Gods creatures. What they needed to do was strip this guy naked and stake him spread eagle to the Oyster bar for the day. I would say that by the time sundown came what was left of him would vote to nuke the place.
We left the forgotten coast knowing 3 things: One, The beauty of that park can not be put into words. It was like having your own oasis. Two, bug spray costs double on the island because it is WORTH EVERY PENNY. Three, God took pity on mankind by making the green horsefly intolerant of cold temperatures. If the green horsefly ever figures out how to knit a sweater it will take over the US and much of Canada.
Bring bug spray. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!:biggrin:
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