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tennswede
01-23-2008, 11:05 AM
I was wondering what you all do for ribbing on small nymphs, and flies in general. I'm having problem with my Prince Nymphs. I have small and fine diameter tinsel. I have both flat and oval. They all seem to be too large in diameter for size 16 and smaller. What am I doing wrong? Any other kind of ribbing material out there? Is ultrawire better? Help please?

Hugh Hartsell
01-23-2008, 11:37 AM
Good morning Hans,
Several things come to mind when you mention ribbing and nymphs. One of the first things that I switch to when dropping down in size on my nymphs is wire. There are at least 4 sizes of wire and maybe more. When you are tying other flies than the Prince Nymph, you might want to look at stripped quills, biots, stripped peacock herl, and a number of synthetics. You do know that we want to see pictures of these flies to see just how well you are progressing??? Be sure to come to that Flytying Class on the 23rd of Feb. We will focus a lot on this type of thing and I'll be looking for another guest tier.
Hugh

David Knapp
01-23-2008, 11:56 AM
I'll second using the wire...I've been using wire more and more as a ribbing because it doesn't have nearly the same likelihood of breaking as the tinsel once the fish start chewing on it... It adds a little extra weight also...

Gerry Romer
01-23-2008, 02:41 PM
One thing you can try is using the tinsel between the ribs of a biot or stripped quill. If you tie in the biot with the notch facing the hook eye, you'll get a pronounced, stiffer rib from the biot when you wrap it forward. By slightly altering the angle of the biot as you wrap it you can control the gap between ribs and create an adequate space for your mylar or tinsel to lay down in the gap. Ribbed and flashy!

I also second all comments on ultra-wire.

Gerry

tennswede
01-23-2008, 03:04 PM
Thanks everyone, I figured the tinsel is better for somewhat larger flies. When you all refer to wire. Is it ultrawire or any others out there? What sizes are we talking about. I'm mainly interested in something suitable for size 16 and 18.

Hugh: I'll try to swing by in February. I'm sure I will pick up some more stuff when I'm over there in the store.

Thanks again folks.

Hugh Hartsell
01-23-2008, 04:01 PM
Hans,
I think that normally you would use Ultra Wire in "Brassie size", down to #16. After that you would drop to "Small size" to #18. After getting to the size#20 range, you would drop to "XSmall size". Start off with Brassie and see how it looks to you. If you feel like it is too large, then just adjust accordingly.
Hugh

tennswede
01-23-2008, 04:27 PM
Hugh!

Thanks for the information.

tire guy
01-23-2008, 08:32 PM
I use the ultra wire om the small 20 &22 sizes. If you want to try some I believe I may live close to you. I am behind St. Joesph school if you want to meet and try some.
Brian

tennswede
01-23-2008, 08:46 PM
Thanks for the offer, but I'm probably going to buy some in several sizes to have on hand. I was just curious about ultra wire and if it could be substituted for tinsel. Do you belong to TU? I'm going to the Little River Chapter's meeting tomorrow. I would bum some off of you if you are out. I apologize if I don't recognize you, do you belong to our FFF club? Sorry for the interrogation. I always like to plug these two organizations when I can.