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Worrgamesguy 01-05-2009 08:38 PM

Go-to flies for waters you've never fished
 
I'm going to fish at Nice Mill dam sometime later, because they just stocked on the 12th. The water is still pretty high and fast, but in the meantime I need fly advice for all kinds of waters.

What flies are an absolute MUST for waters you've never fished before? Please list every possible fly you could not live without, both wet, dry, and streamers. As I see more posts with common flies, I will edit them into the bottom of this post for others to use as a reference, and for me to remember :p

Skipjack 01-05-2009 08:54 PM

You need to try the Obey
 
HI Trey
My son-in-law and I fishied the Obey this past Saturday and caught 4 rainbow. They were not large trout, all in the range of 10" ----but we lost two trout that borke off and we both know they were larger than 10". We did not know the water temp. but our feet was just about num after 20 minutes or so. We were using black and silver and copper midges number 18 size with a 6X tippet--using an indicator about 14" from the midge. The water was slow flow but no more than knee deep in most places--we fished at the moody point access. There was one other fisherman wading but we did'nt see him catching anything. If you can stand the cold water you can catch trout. Really a beautiful place to fish. Good Luck.

92Esquire 01-05-2009 09:25 PM

My first go-to is a size 16 Sparkle Pheasant Tail, as shown at:
http://hipwader.com/2003/sparkle-pheasant-tail-nymph

I also always have zebra midges in black/silver, black/red, and olive/gold in size 18 and 20, brassies in size 22, Copper Johns and Hare's Ears in 14 and 16, and a simple peacock herl/gold wire ribbed midge in 18.

For dries I always have size 14 Stimulators, size 14 and 16 Elk Hair Caddis, size 14 and 16 Parachute Adams, and size 14 and 16 Parachute Hare's Ears. Also a hopper or two and a couple of foam beetles.

I rarely fish streamers, but I always carry a couple of size 8 and 10 olive wooly buggers, and a white Zuddler.

If I'm going near warm water or salt water, I've got chartreuse/white and olive/white clousers in 4 - 1/0, a couple crease flies, a couple Gurglers, and a handful of wooly buggers.

ChemEAngler 01-05-2009 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 92Esquire (Post 61428)
My first go-to is a size 16 Sparkle Pheasant Tail, as shown at:
http://hipwader.com/2003/sparkle-pheasant-tail-nymph

I also always have zebra midges in black/silver, black/red, and olive/gold in size 18 and 20, brassies in size 22, Copper Johns and Hare's Ears in 14 and 16, and a simple peacock herl/gold wire ribbed midge in 18.

For dries I always have size 14 Stimulators, size 14 and 16 Elk Hair Caddis, size 14 and 16 Parachute Adams, and size 14 and 16 Parachute Hare's Ears. Also a hopper or two and a couple of foam beetles.

I rarely fish streamers, but I always carry a couple of size 8 and 10 olive wooly buggers, and a white Zuddler.

If I'm going near warm water or salt water, I've got chartreuse/white and olive/white clousers in 4 - 1/0, a couple crease flies, a couple Gurglers, and a handful of wooly buggers.

I have to agree with 92Esquire, my fly box looks very similar to his. However, if I can only use 1 fly on unfamiliar water it will probably be a #16 BHPT.

Travis

David Knapp 01-05-2009 11:10 PM

For me it totally depends on what type of water I'm visiting. Tailwaters are totally different from when I visit the mountains but fortunately I've got everything to cover both situations in just a couple of boxes. For recent stockers like you're talking about, I have a few flies that work great. Small streamer or wet flies work well. Remember that freshly stocked fish haven't learned everything there is to know about bugs yet so something with a little flash or movement is good for these fish... Small woolly buggers are good, copper johns can be good, and I always seem to have some luck with small Simi Seal Leeches...

Worrgamesguy 01-06-2009 12:05 AM

Well guys, this is what Nice Mill looks like:

http://www.lrn.usace.army.mil/op/jpp...Mill%20Dam.jpg

There is a rock wall that is submerged in this picture, so the water there is deep and fast. But the waterflow now is shallower but faster because the water does not go over the dam like pictured. Where the man is standing in water towards the back of the picture is a flat rock bottom for about 10 feet, and it drops to about 4' but the waterflow is the fastest around there. It's part of the Stones River, so it's no tailwater.

And keep in mind I don't tie, so these flies you mention should be readily available.

David Knapp 01-06-2009 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Worrgamesguy (Post 61437)
And keep in mind I don't tie, so these flies you mention should be readily available.

You need to start tying and then I'll send you a couple secret patterns for stocker 'bows that are just killer...:biggrin: Or remind me next time we fish and I'll give you a couple...:cool:

Worrgamesguy 01-06-2009 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Plateau Angler (Post 61439)
You need to start tying and then I'll send you a couple secret patterns for stocker 'bows that are just killer...:biggrin: Or remind me next time we fish and I'll give you a couple...:cool:

As soon as I pay off my kayak I'm starting my vice and materials fund. I'm tired of paying $2 per zebra midge. I'd like to create a few of my own but that probably won't be well until next summer.

ChemEAngler 01-06-2009 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Worrgamesguy (Post 61445)
As soon as I pay off my kayak I'm starting my vice and materials fund. I'm tired of paying $2 per zebra midge. I'd like to create a few of my own but that probably won't be well until next summer.

Trey,
I will look around when I get home and see if I can find one of my starter vises. I have a couple, and you are more than welcome to have one if you would like it. I will shoot you an email with the details if I find it, that means if my wife hasn't thrown it away yet.

Travis

Wilson10 01-06-2009 02:27 PM

If I'm going to fish new water and was only allowed one fly...

#16 BHPT for sure.


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