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fishhead 11-16-2009 03:00 PM

Nymph hook question
Why is it nymph hooks have tiny eyes like dry hooks, since we weight most of them for drifting correctly, why can we have bigger eyes for tying them to tippet. Old eyes would like to know if there is a technical reason ?

Kytroutbum 11-17-2009 01:28 AM

"cuz we always made them that way! Don't give some hook companies any ideas so they have a reason to raise prices again.

Seriously, I know someone does or used to make a larger "eyed" hook. Some other Ideas; 1) I read (about tying panfish flies) was to tie a normal length fly body on a longer shank hook leaving the front section bare to enable releasing panfish easier. I think this might be a help in tying on tippet (crowding the hook eye when tying). 2)Lefty K. suggests cutting tippet on an angle with a point to faciltate getting through the eye. 3) "Dollar Type" stores carry cheap reading glasses, I've got them stashed all over my house.

Randall Sale
the Kytroutbum

fishhead 11-17-2009 10:19 AM

Yeah, I clip tippets at an angle, use threader boxes, and "hat eyes" just seems like it would be a no brainer for the manufacturer. I figured there must be an underlying technical reason that I was missing.
oh well !

Scott Spencer 11-17-2009 11:50 AM

I think it is Orvis that makes a larger/heavier eyed hook for fly tying. I thought about trying them out to see how well they work.

FlyFishingPastor 11-18-2009 01:54 PM

I believe Orvis calls these hooks, "Big Eye Hooks." They don't seem to have a bunch of varieties of them but maybe they don't need them yet because they haven't caught on?


flyman 11-20-2009 10:28 PM

You can't make them but so big without effecting the strength of the wire. Go to a hook with heavier wire like a 1 or 2 X strong, the hook eyes are usually a little larger.

flyred06 11-20-2009 10:52 PM

flyman that makes perfect sense. I had never thought about that but I think you are right on. I gave up on tying nymphs and moved on tho larger more friendly saltwater patterns for stripers. I called it an evolution to larger fish but it was simply getting to hard to tie on smaller flies. Now if I can catch a brown on these 2/0 owner hooks in this baitfish pattern I will definately be happy.

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