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jeffnles1 02-27-2010 10:08 PM

Another Attempt
 
I tried crease flies again today taking in some suggestions from the message boards and a little "just looking at the things and figuring them out".

Here's a photo of the last one tied today. It's still not quite what I want but it's getting a lot closer than my first attempts.

Jeff
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MadisonBoats 02-27-2010 10:19 PM

Neat fly! I am not familiar with crease flies. Looks like a well built fly. I like how you have your station in front of your PC with a good contrasting backdrop.

My only suggestion would be to create painting templates. Just create the shapes and patterns on a pc and print them on shipping labels or some other kind of cheap labels. The bigger the better. You will have to tape the labels together if the patterns run over several different labels. Then, use an exacto knife and cut out your patterns. Then paint and remove!

jeffnles1 02-27-2010 10:36 PM

Shawn,
It's a pretty easy tie but getting the shape and proportions right is the tough part. Essentially, it's a piece of craft foam cut to shape and folded over the hook and glued into place (I reckon the "crease" is because of the fold, or maybe the guy who invented it was named crease, don't know?).

I'm using "sparkle" foam and then coloring with sharpie and covering with a layer of clear nail polish and then a layer of glitter clear nail polish to give it a sheen and to keep the "glitter" from rubbing off.

I fished a couple of these last summer that a guy gave to me and they worked well for bass and crappie. This was my second attempt at tying this pattern. The first ones, while most likely will catch fish, were not much to look at.

I've seen some that look more or less like pencil poppers. I wanted to get more of a "minnow" sillhouette. Getting that shape is tough. I like your idea about the pattern on labels. I may have to trace one, scan it and then print it out. Thanks for the idea.

Jeff

MadisonBoats 02-28-2010 02:33 AM

Looks good and you are illustrating numerous issues and methods of how to build these. Keep sharing the picks....

jeffnles1 02-28-2010 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadisonBoats (Post 77295)
Looks good and you are illustrating numerous issues and methods of how to build these. Keep sharing the picks....

Thanks Shawn,
Here's what I did differently on these from my earlier ones:
1) tinsel and crystal flash for the tail
2) wrapped a bit of lead wire to the under side of the hook shank back toward the bend to give it a slight tail down float.
3) cut the foam with a very sharp pocket knife (shave hair from your arm sharp) to shape instead of scissors.
4) cut the front to a point /\ then then cut the tip of the point off straight - to give a little bit of a slope to the front instead of being square.
5) let the tail extend a little beyond the hook to give a little better profile
6) cut a compound angle going to the tail. from just past the bend up to the end of the tail I cut a pretty steep angle. From just in front of the hook point to where the other angle started, I cut a less steep angle.
7) rounded the edges where the two angles meet and at the "belly" to give a more "fish like" silhouette.
8 )used holographic sparkle nail polish as the top coat over the body (even though my son suggested I go shopping for a skirt and high heels over my excitement over the sparkle nail polish).

That's about it as for things I changed.

Jeff

streamsideguy 02-28-2010 10:15 PM

looking good, but you dont want the tail facing upwards. you want it to lay flat against the hook shank. Here is about the BEST(and I say best because he actually shows how it lays in the water) tutorial I have found: http://www.warmfly.com/index.php?opt...6&topic=2261.0

jeffnles1 02-28-2010 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by streamsideguy (Post 77315)
looking good, but you dont want the tail facing upwards. you want it to lay flat against the hook shank. Here is about the BEST(and I say best because he actually shows how it lays in the water) tutorial I have found: http://www.warmfly.com/index.php?opt...6&topic=2261.0


I'll have to get some pics of these in the water. Actually, the way this fly floats, the tail does lay more or less flat on the water. I have a few wraps of lead wire right at the hook bend which causes it to float slightly tail down.

The angle is a little steeper than I wanted but I'm looking to make these float with a slight tail down attitude like a dying or injured minnow.

I'm still experimenting with these. I think they will catch fish like they are but I am trying to get it just the way I have envisioned and it's not there yet.

I've even been thinking of putting a plastic "lip" under the nose (cut out of plastic water bottle or milk jug) so when it's twitched, it'll dive a couple inches under the water and float back to the surface kind of like a rapala lure.

Jeff


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