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PeteCz 02-17-2012 12:07 PM

Spring 2012 - "Guide Fly" Swap
It's been awhile since we've had a fly swap on the board (has it really been 3 years since the last one?..) I was thinking that it would be interesting to do a "guide fly" swap. In short, a guide fly is a fly that is simple to tie yet very effective to fish. (Btw, you don't need to be a guide to participate...). Ideally the fly should use only a few materials (4 or less?) and only take 5 minutes or less to tie, like the "Haystack" or "The Usual". Do a Google search or check out this site if you are still a bit unsure: In many cases the fly has been developed for a specific stream or type of stream. That's great, just make sure you let us know what stream to fish them in...

I'm happy to take the responsibility of being the swapmeister. I'd like to have 6 participants, but we could even do it with just 4 tyers. Ideally we would each tie two dozen to share. That way we each would receive 4 of each type (including your own - rather than the usual 2). Let's set the due date for having your flies sent to me at March 15th (we can adjust if needed, but these are supposed to be easy to tie...that's the point).

Ground Rules:
1. Post on this thread if you would like to take part and what you'll be tying), Send me an email at [petecz at] and I will send you my mailing address information. We'll take up to the first 6 entrants by 2/28.

2. Start tying! The due date for your flies is March 15th. Assume you will have to tie 24 flies, and if we have fewer tiers, I will distribute the extras evenly across all of us that do participate.

3. Each fly will need to have a toetag, this is just a small piece of paper with your LRO username on it, what you tied and what size (and if its geared toward a particular stream). Include the recipe if you want, or post it on the thread (or keep it a closely guarded secret).

4. When you are finished with your flies and have mailed them, post on here, so that I can keep an eye out for them.

5. Send your flies in a crushproof container with a return self-addressed envelope with return postage (whatever it cost you to send them to me, is the same amount of postage you should put on the return envelope). The little plastic boxes you get when you buy flies from LRO work well. What ever box you send your flies in, will be returned to you with the swap flies.

6. If you feel the urge to tie a few "bonus flies", I will distribute them accordingly. If you want to specify who to give the bonus flies to, please indicate that in your shipment and I will add those flies to that person's return package.

7. Communication is very important! Don't hesitate to ask questions.

8. If you have never done this before, don't be intimidated. This is a great way to get new flies that you would never think to purchase on your own. Some of my now favorite flies are ones I have never even thought of before I received them in a fly swap and one led to the development of my guide fly.

Here's the lineup. I will keep editing this first post for the roster:
PeteCz -- TroutDude xCaddis (not really an xCaddis, but I'm too lazy to think up a "real" name)
GrannyKnot -- Haystack
Stana Claus -- Yellow Foam Crackleback
BuzzMcManus -- Elk Hair Caddis (yellowish-orange)
GrouseMan77 -- Special Parachute Adams
TroutmanBrook -- Bearded Scud

MadisonBoats 02-17-2012 01:49 PM

Why is there the need to send us back 4 flies of our own? I think it is great that you are doing this and it sounds like fun. Maybe we could tie 10 flies of one of our favorite patterns and your break that up in to 10 participants if more are interested(?) Good Job!

I am too worrisome to let my complete fly-box get exposed to the public.:biggrin:-j/k

PeteCz 02-17-2012 04:44 PM

Advanced Mathematics
Hi Shawn. We used to do a few of these a year between 2006 and Spring 2009, I'm not sure we have the same composition of folks we had then, so I'm not sure if I'll even get 4 other tiers interested, let alone 10.

I'm shooting for each person to tie about 2 dozen for several reasons:
1) If you are willing to tie 24 flies to give away, the fly must be easy to tie or you wouldn't spend the time ("Guide flies" should be easy to tie).

2) In the past I have had a few swap flies that were very productive on the stream. In those cases we only had two of each. The problem was, if a fly was productive and then I lost it in a branch, under a rock, etc. I'd only have the one other one (of that pattern). Which presented a dilemma: do you a) fish with it and risk losing the last one, or b) give up on it so that you can take it home and tie up a few copies (in which case you can never really be sure that it wasn't a fluke -catching a lot of fish on that first fly). By having 4 you avoid that dilemma entirely, you could keep fishing and lose a few more, but still have one to take home and copy...

3) In practicality I try to only give you back flies that you didn't tie, but the numbers always seem messed up (as to the number of flies anyone sends me), so I wind up sending back a couple of your own flies...just wanted to let everyone know its a possibility.

4) Judging by your last comment I think I might not have explained that all of the flies that you would tie are all the same singular pattern. And, I'm not looking for family secrets, just good flies that are easy to tie and can catch fish.

5) If we have 6 tyers, we each could tie 20 flies...that way you would get 4 flies in 5 new patterns returned.

Anyone interested? Anyone.....buehler.....buehler.....

Grannyknot 02-17-2012 05:19 PM

Pete...count me in for 2 dozen haystacks.
If someone else wants to do the haystack, I'll switch to a cdc yellow sally.

Stana Claus 02-17-2012 05:40 PM

I'll play
Put me down for a set of yellow foam Cracklebacks.

Grannyknot 02-19-2012 01:49 PM

Guess I should hold off on tying any more haystacks until this gets some more interest.

PeteCz 02-20-2012 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by Grannyknot (Post 98769)
Guess I should hold off on tying any more haystacks until this gets some more interest.

I tied my 2 dozen over the weekend. If it ends up just being the three of us, we could each send in a dozen and then you'd get 6 cracklebacks and 6 xCaddis.

buzzmcmanus 02-22-2012 02:30 PM


Count me in with just a regular elk hair caddis (Orange/yellow, depending on the light). We could even give some of these flies a test drive after the swap. It's been a few years since we've been fishing.

PeteCz 02-22-2012 11:57 PM


We could even give some of these flies a test drive after the swap.
I'll hold you to missed Hans and I, and the ill-fated Green Drake hatch on Abrams last spring.

Been spending some time down on the Hi the last couple of months. I finally found your rock across from the boat ramp...not an easy thing to do on 1 generator...I'm actually going to bug out of work for a few hours tomorrow and head down there again, before it starts pouring again.

Thanks for joining the swap, looking forward to everyone's flies. If we get one more then we could stick to the original plan and tie two dozen, that way we each would get 6 of the other four patterns (and none of our own...).

buzzmcmanus 02-23-2012 09:01 AM

I'm suprised that there was even a spot left for me. I've fished with your flies, and they are like little sticks of dynamite; grannyknots flies are darn near works of art; Santa clause is tying a tried and true fly for the park. I would have thought people would have jumped all over a chance to get their hands on these. I'm in it to knock the quality level down a notch. My EHC looks like roadkill that's been hit by a lawnmower.

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