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dogfish 03-25-2013 10:25 AM

What i hate!!!!
 
Is knowing what fish are hitting but not having the right tackle. Good morning all, I was fishing the Caney from my buddies boat on saturday between one generator and two in the later afternoon. A shad kill was happening, dying/dead 2-3inch fish all over the surface. Boom, fish hitting on top everywhere, some of them being big mouth billy browns. Alas, not a fly in my box would work. Anyone have any patterns they have thrown in these circumstances with success?!?

David Knapp 03-25-2013 12:03 PM

If you want to buy me a plane ticket, I'll be glad to bring my streamer boxes and show you which ones work... :rolleyes: :biggrin: Seriously, that may be my favorite fishing on the Caney. It can be tough interesting the fish in an imitation when there are so many naturals floating down the river. I would see if Byron has any Puglisi Shad in the correct color and size combination.

Also, I know David Perry of Southeastern Fly has been experimenting for years on this shad kill and has developed some great techniques to target this exact situation. If you want to have someone show you some killer techniques badly enough you might see if he is available for a trip...

David Knapp 03-25-2013 12:11 PM

Here's a weighted streamer I tie that I have done well on during shad times, both with trout and stripers...

http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/k...psde29f915.jpg

flyman01 03-25-2013 12:48 PM

The streamer David pictured should work well. I use a size 6 weighted White Wooly Bugger with crystal flash in the tail and the body that is medium- pearl white chennile, with all the sparkle in this pattern, it emualtes the flash/sparkle of the scales of the real shad in the water. I have had success in both situations by letting it drift like a dead shad and stripping it like a live one.

dogfish 03-26-2013 02:15 PM

You guys are the greatest!!!!! :) **** those picky as trout though... To the viseeeeeee

dogfish 03-27-2013 02:37 PM

tied some up last night, thanks for the recipe david

David Knapp 03-27-2013 03:01 PM

Hope they work well for you. Try them dead drift as well as stripped. My best luck comes dead drift on that pattern with only a slight jigging action...

dogfish 04-02-2013 09:36 AM

Alright folks, the caney stumps us again, although this time there was some hot n heavy action right off the bat. Something big was hooked, never saw it, ran upstream against the flow of one generator which had just kicked on, busted 1x, burnin line. They be in der...... Anyways, later in the day (around 9am) fish were crushin something just under the surface, could not see anything in the water, really would have liked some cheese cloth, any idea what they would be keying in on this time of year subsurface? Pattern recommendations?

Rockyraccoon 04-02-2013 12:05 PM

I really can't say what they were hitting not being there and all. Other than some type of emerging bug of course. In this case, instead of focusing on what they were hitting...work on what can I make them eat.

Near surface risers are almost always eating emergers. So, I carry an assortment of soft hackle wet flies in sizes from #12 - #24. Color is normally not as important as sizes, so pick a color like gray or brown and tie a few soft hackles in each size, all in the same color.

Start with your larger softies, and size down until you find the size they like. Fish your soft hackles by casting past the rise forms. Then swing the fly in front of their location. You can mix up the retrieve to adjust to water speed and what the fish are into. Sometimes a lazy swing, some time short quick strips, some times long slow strips. Just mix it up and you'll find what they like.


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