Thanks for the reply Heavy. I really know just enough to make me dangerous. But have always been interested in why things happen one way or another. I'm also a spin fisherman and have always used gamatsu hooks. Lately I've been hearing about the new Trokars. Thanks for the insight. I've seen my fair share of hook failure(usually @ the bend) and am always trying new things in equipment.The fish are getting smarter but I'm not.