I have only been down the upper Holston Proper a couple of times since then as well. The water coming down the North Fork of the Holston out of southwest Virginia is staying muddy. I floated yesterday testing a new design of an old fly pattern. It worked well in the stained water, visibility was about 18 inches when we started and was about 3 feet when we finished. The new/old fly worked well making some really good noise to call them in.