I'm not going to be much help, but I fished them a couple weeks ago at the in-laws farm pond and caught about a dozen fish on Byron's green. They ate it up. I've since started tying some in the usual colors. The only issue I had with them is that the fish hit them so aggressively, that more than half of them took the hook so deep, I had to go in through the gills to remove it. I wonder if this was just a fluke, or if I need to go to a bigger hook on the ones I tie.