Thanks for the info. As always you are a fountain of information. We have a boat, but I don't know that I could convince my friend to leave it at the mouth of Forney creek. I learned to fly fish on Noland and Deep Creek (on summer vacation with my father) but have not been back to in several years so couldn't recall what the trail was like. Noland will probably be the destination if we are unable to go to Hazel. I don't really want to stay at the lake with the outfitters. I prefer the solitude. Maybe having the 2 sites closed on Hazel will be a good thing. thanks again.