Rather then clog this thing up with pollution jargain, let's start another topic if we want to get into that. I agree with Madison on that, we got to hijacking really bad.
Another fly I forgot about that is deadly on stockers is a hot pink hare's ear with a gold bead. When I say hot pink, I mean hot freaking pink. Before you laugh find some or tie some and try them, trust me they work and work well. Usually a 14 is fine, but sometimes a 12 is even better.